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OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

I use mine to manage a paperclip factory.

How is it going so far?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#52
post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

What they do is create content to spam the rest if us.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#53
post #3

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Most people I know use hermes now

Hermes' Github has 12K open issues and 25K pull requests. I assume they're using agents to sort through all the slop?

Issues and PRs created by agents, triaged by agents, handled by agents?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#55
post #37

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And, perhaps in both cases, because they had fun with it?

mindful people as opposed to mindless people don't have fun, they are occupied with bringing value to shareholders /s

Funnily enough, that’s what I expect an Openclaw user to say

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#56
post #28

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Is it just me or all you describe would be easily scriptable like 5 years ago? Not being confrontational, it’s just that every description of what OpenClaw does sounds quite… not disruptive at all for something that was hailed as the biggest invention since sliced bread.

Yeah that's true, and in many cases the AI just sets up a cronjob and a script (and a mailbox, and an interface to telegram, and a reporting structure). But it's nice that in case of errors it handles the edge cases or it fixes the scripts. It can give the crontable over telegram, you can pause it for the holiday "Number one, pause all processing until further notice"... But sure, it's not "rocket science", in fact,…

"Number one, pause all processing until further notice"...

Because OpenClaw (well, all AI) is well known for following instructions correctly.

https://au.pcmag.com/ai/116091/meta-security-researchers-ai-...

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#57
post #39

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"hey computer, i want to watch a movie on my jellyfin server tonight, get it done" and openclaw autonomously finds the torrent, downloads it, moves it to the NAS, and you sit down at the end of the day with everhything set up

AI is a terrible choice for this task. Radarr does this much better with plenty of built-in as well as community guides for configuration. Add a mobile app for Radarr and it's as convenient as it can be.

Who said openclaw cannot install radarr and operate it?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#58

Still a no from me until these things can display any degree of intuition, and even then it's probably still a no. You're asking for trouble if you hook an autonomous agent up to anything that you care about. You're insanely naive if you give it access to everything. OpenAI can't even monitor its own shit properly with teams of well paid engineers, and you are one novel prompt injection technique away from your entir…

569 first time contributors yea i shall continue to not use openclaw

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"hey computer, i want to watch a movie on my jellyfin server tonight, get it done" and openclaw autonomously finds the torrent, downloads it, moves it to the NAS, and you sit down at the end of the day with everhything set up

You’re still responsible for the copyright infringement I’m afraid

i like the idea of autonomous agents automatically committing fake crimes

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#60
I have found the Pi agent harness, running in a docker container, with Qwen3.8-27B in back in LM Studio, to be amazing and i use it daily. Just last weekend I used it to do PDF editing which previously would have required me to download really shady software online to do.

I have never tried OpenClaw so maybe I am missing out but considering how much my agent can modify the Pi environment to work better, I am happy with the workflow I have established.

Does anyone have a good pro vs con for Pi vs OpenClaw? I have never tried using a cloud model via a local agentic harness.

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