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OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by camillomiller »

teekert wrote: post #19
blfr wrote: post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

I think this is a good question, as with any of these new things you don't really feel any need indeed. My claw scrapes some APIs, receives some emails with job listings, and matches it all to my profile. It can also fill two folders at 2 domains with anything (ie a demo for a website). It can also receive emails, make PFDs out of them and forward them to my bookkeeping software (which can only deal with attachments,…

Is it just me or all you describe would be easily scriptable like 5 years ago? Not being confrontational, it’s just that every description of what OpenClaw does sounds quite… not disruptive at all for something that was hailed as the biggest invention since sliced bread.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by meeq »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

Obligatory question: who is still using OpenClaw? It's been a minor meme about how much discussion about OpenClaw fell of a cliff after March; the Google Trends graph is funny: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=OpenClaw&date=today%201-...

LMFAO, all of Wyoming apparently still using OpenClaw. What's up with that?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by jesse_dot_id »

Still a no from me until these things can display any degree of intuition, and even then it's probably still a no.

You're asking for trouble if you hook an autonomous agent up to anything that you care about. You're insanely naive if you give it access to everything.

OpenAI can't even monitor its own shit properly with teams of well paid engineers, and you are one novel prompt injection technique away from your entire digital life going up in smoke.

Also...

>Today we released by far the largest update in the history of OpenClaw. It was built by 933 contributors, including 569 first-time contributors, and is composed of over 16,000 pull requests.

This is not the flex you think it is. That's horrifying lol

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by comboy »

tidbeck wrote: post #20
blfr wrote: post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

I screenshot the info sent from my sons pre-school and send it. I can then ask it about and get reminders in time for odd closing hours etc. Also use it for follow ups on projects, other reminders, research on the go, small apps/games and language training. (Similar system to OpenClaw)

RAGish storage with different access methods including IM and parsing data from photos sounds good to me. But openclaw seems like a bit too big of a gun for that, did anybody create something more suitable for the job yet?

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by camillomiller »

Almondsetat wrote: post #17
blfr wrote: post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

"hey computer, i want to watch a movie on my jellyfin server tonight, get it done" and openclaw autonomously finds the torrent, downloads it, moves it to the NAS, and you sit down at the end of the day with everhything set up

You’re still responsible for the copyright infringement I’m afraid

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by c0rruptbytes »

Almondsetat wrote: post #17
blfr wrote: post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

"hey computer, i want to watch a movie on my jellyfin server tonight, get it done" and openclaw autonomously finds the torrent, downloads it, moves it to the NAS, and you sit down at the end of the day with everhything set up

the rr suite seems much better for that

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by downrightmike »

blfr wrote: post #14

I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?

Its basically what self hosting is for IT guys, except people who don't 'get' technology

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by teekert »

camillomiller wrote: post #21
teekert wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a good question, as with any of these new things you don't really feel any need indeed. My claw scrapes some APIs, receives some emails with job listings, and matches it all to my profile. It can also fill two folders at 2 domains with anything (ie a demo for a website). It can also receive emails, make PFDs out of them and forward them to my bookkeeping software (which can only deal with attachments,…

Is it just me or all you describe would be easily scriptable like 5 years ago? Not being confrontational, it’s just that every description of what OpenClaw does sounds quite… not disruptive at all for something that was hailed as the biggest invention since sliced bread.

Yeah that's true, and in many cases the AI just sets up a cronjob and a script (and a mailbox, and an interface to telegram, and a reporting structure). But it's nice that in case of errors it handles the edge cases or it fixes the scripts. It can give the crontable over telegram, you can pause it for the holiday "Number one, pause all processing until further notice"...

But sure, it's not "rocket science", in fact, the skills to set it up indeed would probably help you set up the same scripts. It's just behind a chat interface.

It can be nice to say: "Add another minecraft world with the same user whitelist on port 25566" or "create a demo website for a home battery on domain claw.xxx.com". But it is indeed not very useful for me yet. I think the more access you give it, the more it can be like a PA, but I don't want it in my calendar/home assistant/paperless-ngx etc... yet... When I even get to this point I can see it being like my secretary ("Please get my incomes taxes statement from 2024", "Estimate this years income taxes from my invoices so far", "Plan appointment with ..." etc)

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

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Post by flashblaze »

camillomiller wrote: post #21
teekert wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a good question, as with any of these new things you don't really feel any need indeed. My claw scrapes some APIs, receives some emails with job listings, and matches it all to my profile. It can also fill two folders at 2 domains with anything (ie a demo for a website). It can also receive emails, make PFDs out of them and forward them to my bookkeeping software (which can only deal with attachments,…

Is it just me or all you describe would be easily scriptable like 5 years ago? Not being confrontational, it’s just that every description of what OpenClaw does sounds quite… not disruptive at all for something that was hailed as the biggest invention since sliced bread.

I believe the thing which makes OpenClaw interesting is you can just ask it to do these things and it just does. Rather than you having to write these scripts. I understand with LLMs, writing these scripts would now be trivial, but I believe this is even more convenient.

Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally

#30

Post by hanrelan »

arjie wrote: post #6

It was first, but it's like Langchain built tools first. Nowadays, everyone's got a better assistant. Grok's looks like the most exciting, though I just have a custom built one. Has a headed browser when it wants and everything that I can pop into from my phone. It's so easy to write this kind of software it's a waste to pay someone for it.

How do you deal with auth/bot detection/captchas in that browser? That's where my agent consistently gets stuck
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