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Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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i don't understand why DHH is shipping so much bloat in omarchy. The better solution would be to ask if user wants to install bloatware during installation.

DHH created a distro for what he personally needs for work, and his company uses Zoom. It's that simple.

Thats pretty good, then he should have made a toolkit for building and rolling your own badass distro and not a "opinionated" "omakase" system that claims to solve all of deskop linux while personally mocking a lot of people that actually have made real contributions as "clowns".

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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> What is different here? I don’t understand how this is a question. What’s different is that it comes configured this way out of the box, silently, without warning. It’s functionally equivalent to opting in to giving all user accounts root privileges, which is not what anyone expects the default configuration to be. You can choose to configure your installs this way if you choose to do so. It should not come this wa…

The whole point of Omarchy is for people who want to use Arch Linux but have it configured the way DHH does. So I think it's a little different. Anybody using an opinionated respin should understand what they're getting.

What exactly is special about rolling a custom arch in this instance? Like, why does this get so much attention? Do web developers really care about what DHH does that much?

Like, I get it if thats the case. Say, if Chris Lattner or Andrej Karpathy rolled some ML GPU programming distro I'd probably care about it and try and see if it made me more productive.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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I think people shouldn't just jump to distros which are getting heavily hyped in media/Youtube, cachyOS had similar wave, and now Omarchy does. (example: NetworkChuck, Primeagen? and a few others) also, archlinux is much easier to install nowadays with archinstall [1], so i'm not sure you really need another opinionated layer on top of it [1] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archinstall

The problem is not the hype, the problem is that it's a vibe coded distro. AI lowers the bar substantially in terms of needed competence and diligence to create something like this. Of course bugs and issues are present in human created software as well, but now that everyone can vibe code a distro the chances of low quality software are much greater.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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His own blog posts present him as what he is. Have you read them?

Some yes. I am not american, so i don't see anything particularly wrong with them. The main thing americans forget is that they are the invaders that replaced the local population and erased local culture.

This is hilarious. He isn't American and isn't talking about American in his racist rants. The people calling out his racism aren't focused on America or a majority American. His main blog post that gets called out for the blatant racism is titled "As I Remember London".

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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I think people shouldn't just jump to distros which are getting heavily hyped in media/Youtube, cachyOS had similar wave, and now Omarchy does. (example: NetworkChuck, Primeagen? and a few others) also, archlinux is much easier to install nowadays with archinstall [1], so i'm not sure you really need another opinionated layer on top of it [1] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archinstall

I think you are probably missing critical point that for someone omarchy is not about “bare arch” UI is crucial. If people want something easy to use out of the box without spending days to configuring it

I think I get your point as omarchy represents a different kind of UI, but if it was just about getting a rock solid stable working environment, Fedora or Ubuntu with either Gnome and KDE work perfectly fine. I don't even use a third party terminal (just konsole). Keyboard driven terminal workflows works fine on KDE for me.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

#488

Not an Omarchy user and use podman rather then docker. But is this not a docker issue rather then a Omarchy issue, docker should verify user permissions through the socket, it's quite bad that it does not no?

Sorta, but there is a reason that no other distro does this by default and that docker itself warns that doing this is effectively giving the user password-less sudo. So this is a problem in Omarchy specifically since it does the dangerous thing silently and by default while everyone else tries to inform the user of the consequences.

I see, if it's common knowledge of people who use docker that rootful docker is root (though this does seem bad and they should just check the user perms at least) this sounds pretty terrible on Omarchy's part.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

#489

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More like a company that had hundreds of millions of dollars and a couple decades should have fixed it by now. If only Podman could beat Docker in advertising…

First they should try making a solution that works as well as Docker. Every time I use Podman or Podman Desktop I run into the most basic problems. Docker works out of the box everywhere.

I don't use Podman desktop but I haven't had any issues at all with basic Podman. It just seems like a better overall design. It would be great if Docker copied the rootless / daemonless approach if possible.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

#490

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The whole point of Omarchy is for people who want to use Arch Linux but have it configured the way DHH does. So I think it's a little different. Anybody using an opinionated respin should understand what they're getting.

What exactly is special about rolling a custom arch in this instance? Like, why does this get so much attention? Do web developers really care about what DHH does that much? Like, I get it if thats the case. Say, if Chris Lattner or Andrej Karpathy rolled some ML GPU programming distro I'd probably care about it and try and see if it made me more productive.

DHH made Ruby on Rails and lots of people love it (not for me, personally).
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