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You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Cookie banner is not required. It is not even mentioned in GDPR law => EU did not require anyone to implement any cookie banner. You can implement the consent in multiple other ways probably and GDPR does not mandate any specific technical or UX flows. It talks about what consent means for example.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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> You said "shady shit"! Look, I don’t think English is your first language, so I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but it’s getting really tiring having to explain basic things like “context” to you. I’m obviously meaning in the context of data governance. I’m accusing you of selling customer data to unscrupulous characters, to be precise. > You obviously have no idea how business here works! Some gov of…

> The official tells you, you do it, they say “thank you.” > or just leave to a sane country So first you tell me to blindly trust officals, now i should leave country! Great advice! > That’s not the GDPR GDPR is drafted by EU. They went way too far, and made it imcompatible with local laws!

> So first you tell me to blindly trust officals, now i should leave country! Great advice!

Again, context. I’m bored of explaining it to you like a toddler so I’ll just tell you to reread my comments very slowly and figure it out.

> GDPR is drafted by EU. They went way too far, and made it imcompatible with local laws!

This is just a nonsensical statement. GDPR has been in force for 7 years. You haven’t given an example of where it changes, because it fundamentally hasn’t.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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As someone who worked on GDPR compliance just last year, in a company that is deeply affected by it, no, it’s not that complicated.

How about if someone asks for copies of all their data? I thought that was not complicated, but then there was that post here a while back where someone asked McDonald's for their data. It included a vast amount of things that the company had inferred from the data. I hadn't realized that would be in scope, and did some Googling on just what has to be included. According to a few sites I found, and Google's LLM concu…

> If that's right than handling a GDPR data request 100% according to the rules would require having some way to search nearly every computer we've got looking for anything concerning any particular customer.

You’re only half right. If you habitually store data and never delete it from those stores, yes, you have to find and provide it. If they’re temporary (voicemail, fixing a specific issue) and you remove it as soon as it’s no longer needed, you’ll be fine.

> It included a vast amount of things that the company had inferred from the data.

If you’ve tied it to that person, it’s in scope. It’s literally part of GDPR.

> Customer service rep sends an email to their supervisor saying the customer won't take reasonable advice and then gets abusive and asking the supervisor how to deal with future calls from them?

Possibly but you could argue not because that could be business risk.

> I make a list on my computer of customers that I think are exploiting a bug in our billing system to get a lower price, print out that list and assign it to someone to investigate and fix the bug if it exists.

No, you have a valid reason to not share that, as long as you remove the PII once you’re done.

> leaves a voice mail where they include "my new credit card number is with security code and expiration date ", that's supposed to show up in their GDPR data.

If you’re deleting voicemails as you address them you’re fine, you won’t need to include this just because you didn’t get round to deleting it yet.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Does the slowly landing rocket in any way improve live for ordinary people?

Yeah: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink Billions of people are getting access to information through it.

Billions?

You mean millions. As in 12 million subscribers.

Which includes people who have it as a backup.

Thats a lot of taxes for a few cities worth of people. Especially since Americans already paid for fibre to be laid to everyone in to US' home until the fund was embezzled.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Maybe I'm ignorant of the gdpr, but does it ban tracking cookies?

You might be ignorant on purpose. The law does not mention cookies at all, it says how personal/private information must be handled, and under what conditions collecting such is permissible.

Yes, but this exchange is in the context of cookies, as you brought up in your comment. And we're talking about companies maliciously complying with the cookie pop-up mechanism, are we not?

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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While you might hate them, you don’t want your data to be removed from their systems. If you’re having a hard time accessing credit with them, imagine what happens when you try to access credit as a ghost.

Right. The problem is, I do not need credit, but in Germany most landlords ask for this SCHUFA report to consider a rental application. They get 100s of applications (there is housing shortage), so not having any report is not working. And if you are a new expat without a permanent address, or you didn't know and tried to check how much something would be with installments (which triggers the application procedure an…

I’m not here to defend credit agencies but I will point out that the GDPR does put the onus on them to make sure the information is accurate. This is a net positive.

The power to delete your data with them would actually result in exactly the situation you described, likely without the requester knowing that’s what’ll happen!

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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You might be ignorant on purpose. The law does not mention cookies at all, it says how personal/private information must be handled, and under what conditions collecting such is permissible.

Yes, but this exchange is in the context of cookies, as you brought up in your comment. And we're talking about companies maliciously complying with the cookie pop-up mechanism, are we not?

The cookie pop up is a response to the ePrivacy directive, not GDPR.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Yeah but don't tobacco control advocates want to kill the tobacco industry? We don't want to kill the tech industry - surely the tech industry's pain is widely felt sometimes.

They dont want to kill the industry, they want consumers to be informed of the risks and stakes. If that makes consumers not want to consume tobacco then tough luck but the tobacco industry cant be allowed to operate based on lies and misdirection Same goes for data harvesting in tech

I think they do want to kill the industry, and I think that's fine.

One of the greatest achievements of America was killing smoking as a pastime even if that trend is reversing.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Yeah: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink Billions of people are getting access to information through it.

Billions? You mean millions. As in 12 million subscribers. Which includes people who have it as a backup. Thats a lot of taxes for a few cities worth of people. Especially since Americans already paid for fibre to be laid to everyone in to US' home until the fund was embezzled.

It also includes Ukrainian drone operators, for whom this service is the difference between life and death.

Not much tax money was spent on it either.

Re: You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It

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Good for them! We, europeans, already have fiber everywhere and unlimited 5G mobile internet for 2 euro/month.

“2 euro/month” is what you pay directly out of pocket. Your taxes pay the rest.

I can't be absolutely sure, but I don't think this is true. This company [1] I'm paying 2euro/month to, AFAIK is not subsidized and never was. They already spread fiber and cable long before we joined EU (in 2007) and I had this 2euro plan since 2006.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digi_Communications

On the other hand, SpaceX did receive a lot of money from the state.

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