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Post by springtimesun »

pixl97 wrote: post #234
springtimesun wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll be very curious what you get with DDR4. I also almost went that way. I have an Epyc DDR 5 rig and the best I see is 10 tok/s. Caveat being that’s at Q8 and a 4090 doing pre fill so it could be pushed up. The surprising thing for me is how much work you will need to cool the banks if you’re near your memory ceiling. My memory starts soft throttling at about 74C (dies may be hotter, that’s the bank temp) and will…

Typically computers with these larger memory amounts have fans that scream like a banshee trying to move impossible amounts of air over the memory and CPU. Getting something both cool and quite can be a bit difficult.

Yes, I thought when I was starting that 1u and 2u form factors were to save space. Maybe they are, but they also have the advantage of moving air front to back very effectively through and over the components. Though there still must be some need because I see even those boxes have optional manufacturer built memory shrouds to try to force airflow between the DIMMs.

I had some 120x38mm fans from another server box that I pulled out because they were too loud and I didn't need the static pressure they were giving. They went in here. That 13mm (and the extra 1k rpm) moves so much more air.

Re: GLM-5.3 is now open-weight

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Post by inigyou »

mosselman wrote: post #280
inigyou wrote: post #264

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Solar panels are produced for less than $1 per watt btw. Shame they're illegal in Texas because they compete with the governing oil industry.

Why are they illegal? What is your source? Homeowners can’t put solar panels on their roof to use the produced electricity?

As I understand it. They banned solar inverters as well as severely tariffing the panels. In some places it's also illegal not to get your electricity from the grid.

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Post by jubilanti »

mosselman wrote: post #280
inigyou wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Solar panels are produced for less than $1 per watt btw. Shame they're illegal in Texas because they compete with the governing oil industry.

Why are they illegal? What is your source? Homeowners can’t put solar panels on their roof to use the produced electricity?

Nope, because of laws written by energy company lobbyists for the "safety" of consumers, so if you're mixing grid and solar on the same site (even if completely isolated circuits) you have to get all kinds of certifications and permits for inverters and breakers installed by certified technicians that make it cost prohibitive.

Also, many HOAs and local governments place ridiculous restrictions of their own right

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Post by lukan »

mtrovo wrote: post #275
lukan wrote: post #247

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Have you tried it out? I doubt there is a general accepted definition. For me it is just more capable of deep reasoning/handling complexity. Still can mess up, still does not count as strong AI - but a level above Opus and co.

Could you give me an example of a similar task you asked Fable and a different model to do where Fable did a better job? I have a hard time getting models like GLM 5.3 to not perform on my tasks but I might be biased.

Changes in a complex codebase. Opus can do it, but needs more handholding. Making the plan with fable and let opus implement it worked out well.

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Post by subarctic »

revolvingthrow wrote: post #16

GLM 5.3 is probably the sweet spot open weights model if you want to go beyond deepseek flash or the new glm flash. I used it with pi and had a fairly good time, especially since it’s less touchy about cyber and whatnot than the US guys. It’s slightly behind Kimi in ability but it’s a lot easier to run it, I’d expect prices (and speed!) from third parties to be noticeably better. Assuming you’re willing to drop a fat…

I was going to try out pi and I set it up with some of the recent big open weights models, but then I realized that if I just use pi the way I use claude code, it doesn't have an auto mode so it's basically just --dangerously-skip-permissions and you're supposed to sandbox everything yourself. What's your sandboxing setup like?

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Post by mosselman »

inigyou wrote: post #282
mosselman wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are they illegal? What is your source? Homeowners can’t put solar panels on their roof to use the produced electricity?

As I understand it. They banned solar inverters as well as severely tariffing the panels. In some places it's also illegal not to get your electricity from the grid.

From what I can find online that doesn’t seem true. There are import restrictions and various other restrictions, but they don’t seem to be illegal.

Then again I don’t live in Texas let alone the US so i might not know where to look and I don’t care enough to truly find out.

I was just surprised that they were supposedly illegal. Which seems untrue.

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Post by mosselman »

jubilanti wrote: post #283
mosselman wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are they illegal? What is your source? Homeowners can’t put solar panels on their roof to use the produced electricity?

Nope, because of laws written by energy company lobbyists for the "safety" of consumers, so if you're mixing grid and solar on the same site (even if completely isolated circuits) you have to get all kinds of certifications and permits for inverters and breakers installed by certified technicians that make it cost prohibitive. Also, many HOAs and local governments place ridiculous restrictions of their own right

I posted more on the other branch of this thread. But cost prohibitive is about all I can find about this and not illegal. Which for some people might be the same result of course.

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Post by mirekrusin »

stymaar wrote: post #279
mirekrusin wrote: post #238

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Yes, I remember recurring extensions on plan inclusion then becoming permanent - that's my point.

Looks like you've geniunely forgotten then: https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access

And what’s your point exactly?

Re: GLM-5.3 is now open-weight

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Post by stymaar »

mirekrusin wrote: post #289
stymaar wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like you've geniunely forgotten then: https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access

And what’s your point exactly?

Maybe you can re-read the thread? Start here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49482518
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