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EVE Online moves to Python 3

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Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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If you ever do wish to go back, request Signal Cartel to rescue you. Rescuing people from wormholes is exactly what they do. I was with them for years.

Wait, EVE has a volunteer search-and-rescue group?

Yes. If you are stranded in a wormhole, go to Services > Eve Scout Rescue at https://signalcartel.org/

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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The Jehovah's Witnesses of programming

Can someone explain to my non-programmer self what the deal is with Rust? Even not being in the tech space, I have long picked up on this quasi-religous aura around it.

before rust, if you wanted to use a "fast" programming language you had to use C or C++, which are fraught with sharp edges. Rust gives you all the performance benefits of a compiled language, with barely any sharp edges.

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

#73
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Does Claude claim a gender/pronouns now?

Claude is a man's name, so...

Actually no, while it is predominantly a male name, it is also a woman name.

Some examples of women named Claude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Pompidou

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bessy_(dancer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Sarraute

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Jade

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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Does the game have performance issues? I don't see the need to rewrite unless there is a problem with it

> Does the game have performance issues? Yes, it has had huge concurrency issues for the entirety of its life. Their solution to large fights has historically been "let us know in advance pls", plus "move systems to beefier hw nodes" and "tidi" which stands for time dilation, where the "tick rate" of the whole server goes down and a fight takes 10-20-100x longer than it should. It's an amazing concept of a game, but…

Switching away from Python would not fix this. EVE Online runs its world without instancing or shards, meaning you cannot scale out the simulation when a single zone is overcrowded. Pretty much every other online game avoids this problem by making it impossible to have thousands of players in the same area because networking every players' actions to thousands of players is always problematic

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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This is why I had to quit. I enjoyed it way too much and would spend nearly all my free time playing it, much to the detriment of the rest of my (non-professional) life.

It was kind of a blessing for me that I was forced to quit after they introduced PLEX and in doing created a conversion rate for ISK to dollars. Suddenly I was too aware of how worthless everything I was doing was. It's one thing to spend an evening grinding to buy that new ship, it's another when you know you were grinding for 73 cents an hour. Risking losing a ship you spent a week earning the ISK for is thrilling…

I was a criminal, and me and my crew would pull in about $200 worth of isk daily

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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No, you gotta tell Claude that you believe in them

Does Claude claim a gender/pronouns now?

"Claudine" is a traditional feminine-gendered variant of the name.

It may be helpful to point out the definition of "Claude" as "lame; crippled" since the Roman Emperor and his gens.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/claudus#Latin

  limping, halting, lame, crippled 
  c. 347 CE – 420 CE, Hieronymus, Vulgate Matthew 11:5:
  Caeci vident, claudi ambulant […]  The blind see, the lame walk […]
https://bible.usccb.org/bible/matthew/11?5

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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Claude is a man's name, so...

Actually no, while it is predominantly a male name, it is also a woman name. Some examples of women named Claude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Pompidou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bessy_(dancer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Sarraute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Jade

But in this case, Claude is named after Claude Shannon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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post #58

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Claude is a man's name, so...

Actually no, while it is predominantly a male name, it is also a woman name. Some examples of women named Claude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Pompidou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bessy_(dancer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Sarraute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Jade

As the sibling says, Claude was named after Claude Shannon, but TIL, thanks!

Re: EVE Online moves to Python 3

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When python started incorporating asyncio my initial reaction was fairly negative. I was behaving like a grumpy graybeard programmer ("kids these days should learn how to use concurrency instead of working on a new runtime altogether!" [0]). But after using it for a production project I have to say I'm deeply satisfied and surprised by the maturity, quality of APIs and performance in general. I was proven wrong and I…

For me it is quite bad, but just we are now used to it. In the same way that when you ask Windows users about all the bugs and problems they have with their system, they often say that they don't have any. And ten seconds later, will click "ok" on a random crash popup they didn't even read the content of.
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