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Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

girvo wrote: post #112
raincole wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never seen a product blow another product out of the water so hard as Claude Code did to Cursor.

Cursor has a surprising amount of inertia, though, at least where I work.

I've recently moved to a company that uses Cursor, and I'm actually quite fond of it.

I basically never use the editor but the fact that there's a review UI for all the agent work is incredibly helpful.

For me, that makes the models much more usable. I've also been using GPT models a lot, as they're cheaper and less vomit inducing than Claudes text, so this is definitely bad news for me.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by inigyou »

johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #105
GMoromisato wrote: post #102

Everyone is playing hardball. No one wants to be IBM in an IBM-Microsoft dance. But this is kind of like banning GPU exports to China. It will encourage them to develop their own technology. Yes, it will take them longer, but in the long-run China will be more successful with their own GPU tech. The same could be true of SpaceX/xAI

LOL You had me until: >The same could be true of a company run by a drug addict. Elon Musk is nowhere near as capable as millions of intelligent developers in China.

He doesn't have to be. He just has to hire millions of intelligent developers in China.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by re-thc »

mbesto wrote: post #111
dancemethis wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will slightly disagree on a small slice: Their harness/instruction makes Opus/Fable so much better to work with. Honestly, _this_ was their moat more than Composer to me.

If the Opus/Fable harness is superior and it's written using Opus/Fable then it will cease to be a moat. Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue.

> Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue.

Why? Written by does not mean designed by etc. There's a lot more to it.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by throwaway240403 »

brightball wrote: post #88
rgbrenner wrote: post #32

Anthropic already banned xAI for very similar ToS violations earlier this year: https://x.com/kyliebytes/status/2009686466746822731?s=46 So this is OpenAI following suit after Musk admitted to distilling their models. This was bound to happen once Cursor decided to sell itself to a competing model provider. It'll be interesting to see if Anthropic applies their ban to Cursor, or if that datacenter deal they signed wi…

Anthropic seems to have no issues: https://x.com/NotTomBrown/status/2093541294027280657?s=20

LOL, obviously Space-cursor-xAI-musk-imperial-holdings-inc is providing them compute. They either _can't_ cut them off, or they know not to bite the hand that feeds them.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by inigyou »

timmmmmmay wrote: post #136
fhn wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

show me a communist country

back when the USSR was still a going concern, there were zero American leftists claiming that it wasn't really communist. that only started happening after they failed

did they even have the internet back then? how much did people know about other countries?

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by WD-42 »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #48
rgbrenner wrote: post #32

Anthropic already banned xAI for very similar ToS violations earlier this year: https://x.com/kyliebytes/status/2009686466746822731?s=46 So this is OpenAI following suit after Musk admitted to distilling their models. This was bound to happen once Cursor decided to sell itself to a competing model provider. It'll be interesting to see if Anthropic applies their ban to Cursor, or if that datacenter deal they signed wi…

>Musk admitted to distilling their models. what's the moat for AI labs like OpenAI and Antrhopic as they seek trillion IPOs. a lot of people said Chinese models also distill US LLM models. if it is this easy to do. how do US AI labs justify asking for trillion?

Anthropic wants you to think that models that distill from them would be worthless otherwise. It’s not true, it’s just one part of the process. The whole narrative that Chinese and other models are only good because they distill is nonsense.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by inigyou »

neya wrote: post #130

We are making this choice because we cannot be confident that SpaceX will use our technology within our terms of service, based on our experience with Elon Musk's companies violating contracts. The pot calling the kettle black. Look who's talking. A company that trained it's models illegally on so many copyrighted materials without compensating anyone involved. For a company named "Open" AI, they've been hardly open…

Correct. It's killing the competition. Which is what you should do if you want to run a successful business.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by _kidlike »

rippeltippel wrote: post #113

I may be a rare Cursor user around here, but I am saddened by this news. The thing that keeps me using it is precisely the ability to switch between models: I usually do brainstorm/planning with Sol or Terra, then let Composer (free) deal with the implementation. For certain tasks I use Claude, which tends to be more expensive but sometimes saves me time. Using both OpenAI and Anthropic models, Cursor is cheaper than…

JetBrains is a good option - works with any model/agent. Also they have very good semantic search for the codebase, which is exposed via MCP to the agents.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

Philpax wrote: post #24

Honestly, can't say I miss my Cursor subscription at all, and I'm surprised they're still a going concern. Why would I want to use a proprietary VSCode fork with an identity crisis when I can use literally any editor with any agent and have about the same experience?

The integrated review UI is super helpful, but apparently nobody reviews code anymore except me.
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