I believe it when I see it that Claude will be allowed again. There will still be that national security clause that will stop anything and the courts can’t prevent it.
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Remember covid? We all fell into lockstep with great eagerness . Suddenly everybody agreed on what's good and bad, who's good and bad. And why. So don't go pointing fingers. Attend to the 2x4 in your own eye because it's happening to you right now.
Restriction on the movement of people, animals, and goods which is intended to prevent the spread of disease or pests is much older then COVID.
" The word quarantine comes from quarantena or quarantaine, meaning "forty days", used in the Venetian language in the 14th and 15th centuries and also in France. The word is designated in the period during which all ships were required to be isolated before passengers and crew could go ashore during the Black Death plague."
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#433The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.
In the age of "Twitter"? Why Twitter specifically, not the internet or social media? I honestly feel like Twitter is losing relevance. I learned about it from TikTok for what its worth, and then read more about it here on HN. I've never understood why people put Twitter on a pedestal that I feel it doesn't deserve. Though aside from that your point stands and I totally agree with you. In reality people's/companies' constitutional rights can be infringed easily and the courts take months or even years to stop said infringement.
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> National companies often employ locally and pay taxes and have a stake in your long term interest > A hostile power [...] has no such stake. As someone that grew up in Detroit, reading this is basically equivalent to science-fiction for me. If you think domestic companies have some sort of special stake in your country, you're misinformed.
I'm sorry our educational system has not made the differences between bad faith companies and dictatorship clearer. Let me put it this way: American companies sell you a bad car and lay you off to give a CEO a bonus. Chinese dictatorships put you into reeducation camps if you're a Muslim dissident or unapproved member of a religion. China tells the Catholic Church who to appoint as bishops and the Pope spends his tim…
You just described it yourself. American companies will build a Cybertruck, blame their customers, cancel a $25,000 EV, and then lay off employees for Elon's ketamine/AIPAC shill fund.
China has their own Abu Ghraib moments swept under the carpet, but their workers accept it for the same reason America ignored Seymour Hersh. Their middle class is growing, the Chinese economy has vast surpluses and market leverage that only America has ever enjoyed. Their asymmetric warfare stealing IP, from Texas Instruments to ARM to Lockheed Martin went unpunished. The Chinese intelligence agency, through Salt Typhoon, probably has more blackmail on American politicians than the Mossad does. From a Chinese perspective, the war is won. They're supporting the winning side in Ukraine since both US administrations rebuffed full NATO intervention. They're supporting the winning side in Iran after the IRGC proved they can disable planes, drones and ships with Chinese hardware.
When the United States calls Canada a "51st state" or renames border territories to manufacture leverage, it's not helping China lose. They're undermining the trade agreements that all of North America relies on, and strengthening China's case as a reliable alternative to America's fickle export restrictions. In that sense, humanitarian outrage is almost an advantage; why would Pakistan, Iran or Russia worry about ethical reprisal from China if they're equally amoral?
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Politics doesn't work if a significant part of the leadership is constantly acting in bad faith, and behaving essentially sociopathically. Voters' and citizens' (and some judges') willingness to support sociopathic behavior by leaders is a profound failing at their basic social duties, and is deeply shameful.
> Politics doesn't work if a significant part of the leadership is constantly acting in bad faith, and behaving essentially sociopathically. Not to be too contrarian, but I'm certain there are many people who would claim that's the only way it has ever worked (poorly)
People always feel like that to a certain extent, but both quantitatively and qualitatively there have been very dramatic shifts in the past few decades in the USA.
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Remember covid? We all fell into lockstep with great eagerness . Suddenly everybody agreed on what's good and bad, who's good and bad. And why. So don't go pointing fingers. Attend to the 2x4 in your own eye because it's happening to you right now.
Restriction on the movement of people, animals, and goods which is intended to prevent the spread of disease or pests is much older then COVID. " The word quarantine comes from quarantena or quarantaine, meaning "forty days", used in the Venetian language in the 14th and 15th centuries and also in France. The word is designated in the period during which all ships were required to be isolated before passengers and cr…
If the past has taught us anything it's that we can contrive a logically-consistent, authoritatively-founded rationale to support literally anything.
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#439The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.
>Why can't they expedite for special cases? They can, the preliminary injunction is a thing that can be invoked very quickly to stop actions before the law decides. Anthropic didn't suffer any irreparable harm and they're free to seek damages if they wish, but they won't because it doesn't really matter to them. This whole mess has just been advertising that has kept them in the headlines and very likely has been mor…
A lot of folks here are misreading “irreparable harm,” which means “something that cannot be fixed with money later.” Even if this somehow screwed Anthropic so badly that they lost the AI race and Dario was relegated to the permanent underclass, that is an injury which could in theory be compensated with money - a jaw-dropping quantity of money, but money nonetheless. Irreparable harm can never be fixed even with infinite money. For example, if you think you’re the rightful owner of a piece of real estate, and someone else tries to sell it to a third party, you are faced with the prospect of irreparable harm: all the money in the world can’t FORCE the buyer to sell it back to you if the transaction goes through, and a piece of real estate is completely unique and non-fungible (at least in the eyes of the law), so no amount of money could get you the same thing.
Edit to add: Anthropic did show a risk of irreparable harm because their opponent is the government, and the government typically can’t be forced to pay damages (subject to limited statutory exceptions).
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That is a policy choice. Why do we need jobs if we're getting unlimited free stuff? The laws of physics aren't requiring us to - we are requiring us to.
> Why do we need jobs if we're getting unlimited free stuff? Are you seriously arguing that the policy of putting oneself in a position of total economic dependence on China is in any way reasonable?
I'm saying the policy that receiving a gift is bad for you is our fault.