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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by heylook »

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #281
rootusrootus wrote: post #260

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> if your policy goals involve people in other states, which just about all progressives do That does not seem like a feature unique to progressives? Conservatives are trying explicitly to involve other states, they'd happily put us all under the thumb of a Evangelical theocracy if they had the power to do so.

What part of "lowercase p" was unclear? Those jerks in NC to cram Christian values down everyone's throat via the federal government are no different than the jerks in CA who think that if they have to suffer through a low flow shower head some guy in Alton Missouri ought to as well. They're all progressives. We can debate the merits of the directions in which they seek to progress but they're both progressives on a…

> What part of "lowercase p" was unclear?

The whole thing. I spend way too much time in the politics/political-philosophy rabbit hole, and it still whooshed right by me. I bet you got like a 2% hit rate on people understanding what you meant.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by rootusrootus »

heylook wrote: post #285
rootusrootus wrote: post #258

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> An interesting feature of Trump 2.0 is that his party has essentially entirely keeled over. The people who called it a cult were basically right. Trump has overwhelming control over republican voters and has proven he can easily end the careers of republican politicians who oppose him. I do not recall a single politician of either party in my lifetime who has held this level of uncritical support. It will be fascin…

> So he will anoint a weakling and the base will fracture. Prediction: he will never anoint anyone. He is pathologically incapable of stepping aside, sharing, or caring one iota of what happens to anyone after he dies. He may not even be capable of conceptualizing his own mortality. I fucking hate living in interesting times.

> I fucking hate living in interesting times.

You are in very good company, I expect. There are so many interesting aspects to the time we live in and I find it exhausting.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by heylook »

thinkcontext wrote: post #18

Good for Anthropic for standing up for themselves but think of the masses of companies that decided not to take the risk. The tone was definitely set at Trump's inauguration with all the tech execs front and center on display. They knew that if they didn't play ball Trump would use government power against them. Law firms blackmailed into doing pro bono work for Trump's pet causes, intelligence analysts not able to t…

> They knew that if they didn't play ball Trump would use government power against them.

And that friends, is capital-F Fascism.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by ok123456 »

superxpro12 wrote: post #247
andrewla wrote: post #187

I think this both overstates and understates the case. The evidence being weak does not invalidate the decision; as the court notes, the government gets substantial deference on matters of national security. The invalidation comes from the fact that this is clearly retaliatory behavior for speech; and the evidence for this is fairly strong since the administration has made public statements to that effect. The eviden…

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"National security matters" was never in good faith.

As a concept, it's used as an escape hatch whenever it wants to avoid public scrutiny.

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Post by heylook »

zaphar wrote: post #244
the_gastropod wrote: post #208

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A both-sides guy! How original! Choose the worst Democratic politician currently in office and please explain what they’ve done or said that is in any way comparable to what the Republican Party is doing.

This is completely missing the point. Structurally I don't believe either party is set up to allow truly quality candidates to succeed. They optimize for all the wrong things in their candidates. Candidates who are quality that get through tend to be exceptions. Picking the worst of either side is just furthering the "We can't vote for good candidates because they might lose to whoever we believe is the worst candida…

Your plan is to vote third party but it has zero to say about First-Past-the-Post voting, and so it is obviously completely useless and naive.

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Post by Henchman21 »

newsomix9xl wrote: post #47
bruce511 wrote: post #29

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And trade. The last 18 months the US has shown itself to be a unreliable trade partner. Lots of companies are looking at diversifying both markets and supply chains. The recent trip of the Canadian PM to China is but the most visible part of this shift. That's at govt level, but I've seen it happen all the way down to individual level. US products are typically more expensive here than Chinese. But at least you were…

I doubt the Canadians want their economy flooded with Chinese goods ("dumping" - selling goods at less than cost) - which destroys local industry. This was predicted in The Economist awhile back, that if the US blocked Chinese imports a tsunami of Chinese goods would flood other countries and now it's happening. Those countries will also, in turn, erect trade barriers, or suffer the devastation that massive Chinese d…

Selling below price to capture a market is now somehow BAD? Isn’t this the bread & butter of cutthroat capitalism? Isn’t it something we do endlessly? But when the Chinese do it its “dumping”?

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Post by CamperBob2 »

IAmBroom wrote: post #199
inigyou wrote: post #84

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That is a policy choice. Why do we need jobs if we're getting unlimited free stuff? The laws of physics aren't requiring us to - we are requiring us to.

I was unaware that goods self-assembled without human intervention. Please, elaborate.

We're working on that. Be patient.

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Post by [deleted] »

IAmBroom wrote: post #201
agileAlligator wrote: post #124

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on what basis do you claim the local product is "good" if people are not choosing it?

You can manipulate the meaning of "good" to suit your purpose, but it generally refers to quality. Cost is a different aspect entirely. A one-dollar scoop of ice cream and a $100 scoop are both good.

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Post by LoganDark »

inigyou wrote: post #225
IAmBroom wrote: post #199

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I was unaware that goods self-assembled without human intervention. Please, elaborate.

Other humans. If other humans were giving you everything you need for free, why do you need a job?

To afford things I merely want? To afford to support friends and partners?

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Post by satvikpendem »

newsomix9xl wrote: post #230
satvikpendem wrote: post #71

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Use joint ventures just as China does.

In which you have a non-optional deal with a state owned venture?

Doesn't have to be state-owned but it probably helps if the state forces such a venture with their domestic companies. It's already occuring in many countries now that China is the dominant producer, such as Ford with Geely and Volkswagen with XPeng.
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