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Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by enragedcacti »

Lio wrote: post #61
Mashimo wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Framework 13 pro with new Intel chips claims to run 20h of 4k Netflix stream, or 17h of light web browsing @250 nits. That said these numbers are with windows.

So the hardware is capable but the Linux distros aren’t quite there yet? Fingers crossed for them then. I love the idea of a Framework laptop but I’m only interested in Linux performance.

Anecdotal, but a CachyOS dev seems quite happy about the 13 Pro battery life in Linux.

> Its two working days. Around 15-18 hrs i get out, depending on usage and power profile. If you do heavy compilation or so its much shorter :D

> Generally used balanced profile most time with intel lpmd (lpe core task util till threshold).

https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1sstqon/comment/oh...

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by simoltos »

dermacentor wrote: post #202
simoltos wrote: post #85

Do you think Asahi is developing too slow? If yes could it be due to the anti AI policy?

Nobody is stopping you from forking Asahi and making your own version with cocaine, hookers and AI.

I was thinking of doing it. I've a good model to use for reverse engeniring, good logical skills, what's missing is apple's hardware

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by ryandrake »

raybb wrote: post #65
dgunay wrote: post #21

I have immense respect for the incredible work that the Asahi team does, but at the rate that Intel and AMD have been catching up on power efficiency I wonder whether anyone will really _have_ to run Linux on M series laptops. There was a clear case for it back when Apple silicon absolutely dominated anything else you could buy but with Panther Lake I'm not so sure that Apple's lead will continue to be big enough to…

That's fair but also think about the ewaste. I'm still hoping one of these mega AI LLMs will figure out how to install Linux on the many old iPads that become nearly useless after Apple stops updating them and you can't install new apps.

Yea, this project doesn't just benefit someone who goes out and buys a new Apple laptop. It's going to be most beneficial years from now, after Apple deliberately obsoletes today's hardware, stops updating them with software, and tries to turn them into e-waste.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by [deleted] »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #159
Parodper wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ctrl/Shift+Insert are the actual standard, from IBM's CUA.

I know those from growing up with QBASIC and EDIT.COM, but I think the only software I've used that actually supports them is the Windows conhost (the default UI for command-line apps).

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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by testing22321 »

stiray wrote: post #69

I hope they will support M4 soon, I cant stand macos and its desire to be different than everything else by custom keyboard shortcuts etc. After 2 years of usage, I still have issues with basic actions like copy paste. edit: omg, writing this post, i checked if there is some way to use linux shortcuts and there is (Kanesh/KMonad or Karabiner-Elements). Maybe my suffering will finally stop.

What issue do you have with copy/paste?

Command+c command+v has worked every single timein every program since macOS 7.0 when I started.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by ryandrake »

kalleboo wrote: post #77
selfhoster1312 wrote: post #62

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OS LTS support barely matters when planned obsolescence is baked in at the hardware level. Wearing parts (eg. SSD) are soldered on newer macs and there's intensive efforts to make sure even if you have the tools you can't repair it. Parts aren't available but if you get your hands on there's cryptographic parts pairing so it more or less can't be replaced: https://rossmanngroup.com/services/ssd-data-recovery/macbook.…

My MacBook Pro M1 is 5 years old now and the SSD wear level is at 4%. SSD wear is not a problem for normal users. Meanwhile Apple's standard OS support period is 7 years, that's a much more imminent limit. Not saying that I support non-user-replaceable SSDs, but if your goal is reducing e-waste, there are more impactful changes to make.

Every piece of Apple hardware I own has outlasted its software support by at least 2X. Or, as I'd rather put it: The software support has been prematurely cut off at best at 50% of devices' lifetimes.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by 0x457 »

dgllghr wrote: post #116
happosai wrote: post #36

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Unfortunately, the state of non-Apple hardware makes your parent’s comment a defensible position. Btw, using Linux in general means having “some unpaid volunteer do it for you”

> Btw, using Linux in general means having “some unpaid volunteer do it for you”

Maybe using Linux on a desktop, but using Linux in general is >80% paid developers [1]

[1]: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/hubfs/Reports/LinuxKernelRep...

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by vunderba »

kccqzy wrote: post #186
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know those from growing up with QBASIC and EDIT.COM, but I think the only software I've used that actually supports them is the Windows conhost (the default UI for command-line apps).

What? Ctrl/Shift Insert is supported basically everywhere in Windows, from the lowly Notepad to the behemoth that’s Microsoft Word. Browsers support it. Terminals support it. On Linux all Linux apps I’ve tried support it. Even Emacs which famously doesn’t support the usual C-c C-v supports it (mapped to kill-ring-save and yank). This is as universal as possible in the world without Cmd key. In fact the last time I bo…

Same I grew up using Ctrl+Shift+Insert, and only really migrated over to Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V when I started using mouse-driven environments more heavily, because I could drive copy paste with my left hand and keep the mouse in my right.
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