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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by andrewla »

airstrike wrote: post #883
andrewla wrote: post #869

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that you did not actually read his dissent. Far from agreeing with the Trump administration; his view would effectively end birth tourism but preserve birthright citizenship (and maybe even stronger) for the children of non-citizens, legal or otherwise, who are domiciled in the US. As for it being cut and dry, do you earnestly believe that "and subject to its jurisdiction" is cut and dry? You might have…

Subject to its jurisdiction is pretty cleanly meant to mean paying taxes and obeying laws enforced upon them, which I concede could mean one is subject to multiple jurisdictions but it is not necessary to be subject to only one.

"Paying taxes" cannot be an important part of this. At the time this amendment was passed, income taxes not only did not exist, but were also unconstitutional.

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Post by rayiner »

motbus3 wrote: post #676
hvb2 wrote: post #484

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The leaving part is not the issue, as you try to immigrate into a country you're subject to the rules that country sets. You're always free to not immigrate into that country (this is not about asylum). The issue here is that, if you just left the country to do everything the country asked you, you are now in limbo. For how long? No one can tell. Does this mean you lose your job? Maybe. And when you decide it's no lo…

when you treat immigrants like they were not people with lifes, you are just one step away from treating poor people as they were not people and then too treat all common people as they were not people. also it has been quite convenient explanation for adopting systems such as Flock and allowing all kinds of para-police actions which seems very similar to what happened in germany circla 1930-1934

You treat them like they are people without personal agency.

Temporary worker programs are a deal offered on open terms: people can come to work, but they have to leave afterward. The laws are plastered with the word “temporary.” People take advantage of the deal knowing the terms and there is nothing wrong holding people to the deal.

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Post by stanleykm »

itake wrote: post #822
fg137 wrote: post #713

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This. The dude has no idea what they are talking about. It's amazing even on HN people are openly giving their opinions while being completely uninformed of the facts. Imagine the discussions elsewhere.

I’m informed on this topic… Can you correct the mistake? If I show up in China (or the USA) on a tourist visa with the plans to pursue a marriage and permanent residency, does that mean I get to backdate my permanent residency to the tourist visa because I’m able to pursue a marriage (PR)?

an h1b isnt a tourist visa what is wrong with you people

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Post by jandrese »

tclancy wrote: post #802
motbus3 wrote: post #676

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when you treat immigrants like they were not people with lifes, you are just one step away from treating poor people as they were not people and then too treat all common people as they were not people. also it has been quite convenient explanation for adopting systems such as Flock and allowing all kinds of para-police actions which seems very similar to what happened in germany circla 1930-1934

> when you treat immigrants like they were not people with lifes Thus the rebranding of humans as “illegals”.

Especially when they arbitrarily change the rules so people who did everything by the book are now “illegals”. Especially when they “lose” paperwork somewhere inside of an enormous overworked and hostile bureaucracy.

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Post by andrewla »

enraged_camel wrote: post #445
samiwami wrote: post #428

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it’s a cut and dry constitutional amendment, it doesn’t matter if Thomas thinks the people that were in mind when it was drafted are not the same people it applies to now. if they want to change it, go ahead and get the states to ratify a new amendment. Supreme Court doesn’t get to throw out an amendment because it’s old.

It's also amusing that you won't ever hear conservatives like Thomas making the same argument when it comes to, say, the 2nd amendment.

You also won't find Thomas making this argument for birthright citizenship because he didn't make that argument for birthright citizenship. The post you are replying to is incorrect, this was not his argument.

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Post by woodpanel »

ramraj07 wrote: post #884
woodpanel wrote: post #877

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Non-US citizen here. 100% Agreed. Where does this notion come from that a host society has any obligation to the foreigner / non pr? As if he was forced to move to America.

No one asks for that obligation. Only that the rules are stable and you give a heads up.

You have the heads up: Why acquire real-estate if your status is by law temporary?

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Post by nutjob2 »

yipinwong wrote: post #809
Danox wrote: post #448

Just more distraction from a clown administration the most incompetent in American history.

A dumb political statement in HN without any justification on why or providing contexts.

Doesn't mean he's not right. The evidence is overwhelming.

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Post by nonethewiser »

hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

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Post by jpadkins »

cyanydeez wrote: post #767
hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

Theyre pinching H1B visas to bootlick for fascism. Any other rationale ignores history.

Fascism is the merger of corporate and government power. Powerful corporations utilize do not like this policy decision at all. Increasing costs of H1B means less workers who will work harder and cheaper than the market would bear if large amounts of immigrant labor were allowed in. So no, reducing immigrant labor is not a fascist move because it is not in the interests of powerful corporations and capital owners.
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