At some point someone will make a big company from zero managed completely by AI and the owner will just do investing. We just need an open source IA that get the IA hiring stuff.
CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
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Both exist. I’d imagine most HN commenters do not work for startup headed up by a founder. The majority work for larger companies where the CEO isn’t as hands on as a startup founder and is never seen in the workplace. I promise you there’s a reason the stereotype exists!
That is true but “is never seen in the workplace” to doesn’t add value is still one hell of a leap. At scale CEOs don’t add value by clocking in and pumping out LoC themselves and they sure aren’t having all their employees tag along on their day to day. Reckon there is either an underlying belief that coding LoC is the only value and everyone else is contributing nothing or a if I can’t see it then it must not exist…
In reality the leap for a significant portion of HN goes more like “is not seen in the workplace” -> “is a sociopathic monster who is waging class warfare against me and my friends and all that is good and true in the world, and deserves to be shot in the back on a public street”
People are fucking unhinged. Thank god these people are almost all too lazy and cowardly to act on their little revenge fantasies.
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> I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs I have the opposite opinion. I've never been a CEO, and have intentionally avoided any sort of manager/C-level opportunities at all the various companies I've worked specifically because they require a lot of effort at personnel management, investor relationships, customer relationships, and generally things requiring having to talk to people . That kind of thing j…
Genuine question: am I missing some sarcasm here? When you say a CEO has to "talk to people", and then say it can't be done by a chat bot. That's literally the only thing a chat bot can do.
Every person all the way down the chain thinks everyone else can be replaced by AI, but have some good reason that they themselves (or their role) can’t be.
Personally I think that almost any role can be augmented by AI, but very few can be outright replaced that we’re not already very close to an RPA bot replacing them anyway.
Then you consider that they might be able to reduce headcount because of productivity increases. But why wouldn’t they want to use the budget they already have for these newly more productive people and get even more work done overall?
There are some exceptions, like maybe you can be entirely rid of some L1 support.
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#484To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…
> To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs
Of course you do. Which is why you won’t get anywhere. It’s always funny to watch though.
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Agreed. LLMs are the Manhattan Project of the class war. It really looks like they're betting everything that this will "win" it for them
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> Understand human nature, incentives, and complex systems like markets and how they produce incentives.
We do. "Class war" is just the succinct phrasing for "people who earn money through capital returns have vastly different incentives than people who earn money from their labor, and they also have the means to turn those interests into political leverage".
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Being a non-executive board member often involves very little time or attention, it's mostly lending your name and credibility to the organization. Consider it an American form of royal patronage[0] [0] https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a63431790/...
According to this executive survey, the average time spent for board duties for public companies is well over 242 hours per year: https://www.spencerstuart.com/research-and-insight/spencer-s... So that would be like if I took 6 work weeks weeks off per year to work full time at some other company.
I'm not sure I trust any self-reported numbers on this kind of stuff. 10 - 20 days per year (but not evenly distributed) is a common figure I see thrown around: https://www.nedcapital.co.uk/how-much-time-does-a-non-execut...
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Brian Thompson killed more people than Luigi.
No, he didn’t. Not by any logic that doesn’t also implicate every other executive, employee, vendor, and customer of every health insurance company, plus a huge number of other industries. To the point where the blame is so diffuse that it’s a pointless exercise. Edit since I can’t reply: if “murderer” means someone who takes actions that have nth-order effects of someone dying, with no reasonable or discernible limi…
"It does not make sense to call him a murderer because then there would be a ton of murderers."
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Must use the Internet Archive now: https://web.archive.org/web/20260725174355/https://marshallb... The author died.
Thank you for the backup link! I hadn't known he had passed, and I didn't expect the link to fail. I first read the story back in 2008 or so, and it's been one of those works that lodged itself in my mind so it's sad to hear he died.
Goodness, what a find! Same here.-
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> It’s like some caricature - like an attempt to draw an animal that has never been seen from a description In my experience this is how HNers see a lot of roles or professions that are not software developer. Finance = Patrick Bateman, lawyer = Saul Goodman, etc.
Haha! Sometimes non techies think software developers are just like those from the Silicon Valley series. Sometimes a bit too close to reality though.
I think the difference is that Silicon Valley clearly had writers who were very familiar with software engineers and founder culture etc.
Whereas no one on the set of e.g. Suits has ever had contact with the legal system