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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by EliRivers »

RobotToaster wrote: post #811
hvb2 wrote: post #567

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The leaving part is not the issue, as you try to immigrate into a country you're subject to the rules that country sets. You're always free to not immigrate into that country (this is not about asylum). The issue here is that, if you just left the country to do everything the country asked you, you are now in limbo. For how long? No one can tell. Does this mean you lose your job? Maybe. And when you decide it's no lo…

> And when you decide it's no longer worth it, you might even have issues getting back in to get your stuff... Do they refuse tourist visas for someone who recently had an immigrant visa?

They sure do. US law presupposes that a tourist is secretly planning to stay in the US, and must demonstrate otherwise to the satisfaction of the assessor. There are a number of factors assessed, including things like ties to the applicant's home country - an existing job, ownership of property, family demands; basically, clearly having a life in that country that the applicant wants and needs to get back to.

Someone applying for a tourist visa, who recently had an immigration renewal denied, who has no life to get back to in their country of origin (because they built a life in the US) but clearly has a life in the US (owns property in the US, has family in the US, has work ties -maybe even still has a job in the US); that applicant is an enhanced overstayer risk and this increases the chances of being denied a tourist visa.

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Post by cindyllm »

3838484949 wrote: post #920
fg137 wrote: post #889

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This. The dude has no idea what they are talking about. It's amazing even on HN people are openly giving their opinions while being completely uninformed of the facts. Imagine the discussions elsewhere.

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Re: U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by doc_ick »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #508
doc_ick wrote: post #405

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They may make good physicists, but not great physicists. Similar to saying I know how to drive a car, now let me win the inde 500. Things take to for specialization, even with the advent of guessing and checking machines (llms).

With training (remember that?) and practice, one could vastly improve. It’s called a growth mindset.

You know what training takes? Time

Re: U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by ifwinterco »

dijksterhuis wrote: post #904
ifwinterco wrote: post #775

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Not at the moment, but the result of the current UK system has been huge uncontrolled levels of immigration leading to deep public resentment, so that may change in the future

couple of notes — 1a. Illegal immigration has nothing to do with visa based, legal immigration. illegal immigration is the type of immigration people are upset about here in the UK. most people have no problem with legal migration. 1b. anyone claiming the UK’s legal migration is any sort of problem right now, or in the past, should probably not be listened to in any way shape or form for anything they have to say on…

People absolutely do have a problem with legal immigration, especially post-Boriswave.

If legal immigration means millions of new people every year and rapid demographic change, of course that will cause a political issue.

It would be very strange (basically unheard of in human history) if it didn't.

People I know who are non-white all report increased racism (mostly not aggressive but noticeable) since Covid, despite having English accents so clearly not being illegal immigrants.

That is caused by reckless immigration policy stoking resentment

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Post by ryoshu »

skinfaxi wrote: post #900
mlazos wrote: post #832

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Laws should not be executed on the whim of the executive branch.

It's not always a bad thing though is it? Like when Obama stopped federal enforcement of weed laws.

That decision was expanding rights, not removing them.

Re: U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by doc_ick »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #472
doc_ick wrote: post #405

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They may make good physicists, but not great physicists. Similar to saying I know how to drive a car, now let me win the inde 500. Things take to for specialization, even with the advent of guessing and checking machines (llms).

A shocking number of innovations in x field are because y person brought an idea that maps from z field. Cross functional teams are important and mathematicians can and absolutely do make top level contributions to physics. One of the math problems recently publicized as having being solved by was actually just discovering that a German mathematician had published a solution in the 1950s.

Oh that is true, and I’m not putting down cross functional teams. I’m just putting down the idea that a specialist in one area can immediately be a specialist in another semi related area with no extra review time.

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Post by cingley »

That doesn't sound too bad, it just means that workers who would otherwise have migrated to the US can enrich their home countries, or other countries they are more easily able to migrate too. From an economic point of view this may well end up being a positive policy decision for both sides.

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Post by hdgvhicv »

dmurray wrote: post #883
inemesitaffia wrote: post #876

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Ireland, Nigeria

And lots of expat-friendly countries that are tolerant of working on repeated tourist visas rather than a full immigrant visa, but still require visa runs every month or three.

So not an immigrant visa?

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Post by mikert89 »

hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

These are temporary visas

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Post by koolba »

ryoshu wrote: post #945
skinfaxi wrote: post #900

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It's not always a bad thing though is it? Like when Obama stopped federal enforcement of weed laws.

That decision was expanding rights, not removing them.

Yes it’s only bad when Trump does it.

Refusing to enforce drug laws or immigration laws is perfectly fine. Ditto for refusing to honor the 2nd amendment.

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