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CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
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Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#452Lol!! Don't forget. This is a modern day class war. This current LLM based so called AI, could have easily used for automating simple tasks and employees could have easily provided with 3 day work week. The goal is to monopolize human knowledge with all the stolen data and make profits from it.
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The group who is currently winning this group vs. group war doesn't want you to think there is one.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#453I get it’s a joke, and often a frequent cynical joke made here, but I actually think it’s a good thought experiment. Almost like a new Turing test The thought experiment, to be clear, is building an artificially intelligent CEO or company founder with the intent of generating profit. If this AI can turn a profit, it has passed this new test Of course, by the time this new AI starts turning a profit, it will be maximi…
You're describing the Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall[1], which, I'm sorry, is a Marxist idea so it's automatically wrong. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit...
This kind of thought-terminating dogmatism is unwise.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#454Neither CEO nor dev here but must say hn comments on CEOs are always wild. It’s like some caricature - like an attempt to draw an animal that has never been seen from a description Somehow founders constantly putting out fires, leading and strategizing makes sense but once they acquire the CEO title they apparently do nothing and swan about
> It’s like some caricature - like an attempt to draw an animal that has never been seen from a description In my experience this is how HNers see a lot of roles or professions that are not software developer. Finance = Patrick Bateman, lawyer = Saul Goodman, etc.
Haha! Sometimes non techies think software developers are just like those from the Silicon Valley series. Sometimes a bit too close to reality though.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#455Neither CEO nor dev here but must say hn comments on CEOs are always wild. It’s like some caricature - like an attempt to draw an animal that has never been seen from a description Somehow founders constantly putting out fires, leading and strategizing makes sense but once they acquire the CEO title they apparently do nothing and swan about
The founders who become CEOs are generally the better ones. The ones that draw universal hatred are usually hired by the board of public companies, to enact unpopular measures to ensure shareholder returns, such as firing expensive developers to make room for cheap AI; or unfairly denying health care to policy holders (like Luigi's alleged victim); etc. The relatively rare heartless corporate CEO also receives dispro…
Luigi Mangione pleaded guilty.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#456To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…
The scifi story Manna starts with management being automated: https://marshallbrain.com/manna1
It's a different type of soulless hell, and it's a good read if you haven't already.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wasting your latin trying to impress others with nothingness causes the same revulsion, human or AI. Previously, most people would save their effort for things that actually mattered. Take away the effort and this is what you get.
It’s not about trying to impress others
Dumb people want to impress by using words others might not understand.
Smart people want others to understand them.
In early days of Internet, it was a domain of smart people. And native English speakers have no problem communicating with people from Ex-Comecon countries with vey little English knowledge.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fully in favor of a social safety net (a proper UBI even), but the tax system should tax what we don't want / keep within bounds, and I think in general we want more automation and more free time. So we should tax resource consumption. Short time, this might turn out the same (i.e. whether to tax agents through electricity consumption or agents directly might not make much of a difference) but I think long term t…
Taxing resource consumption, would likely encourage companies to optimize for less and less resource consumption. That by itself might be a good thing. But what if some day companies achieved the ultimate savings, using very little resource to produce the max amount of things. You'd get very little tax revenue to feed the society. Of course, if those max amounts of things have few consumers because most people are ju…
> most people are just too poor to afford them
I think a resource consumption based tax model extends very neatly to a UBI model. One could think of as: "this is the basic resource consumption we allow each person" and it automatically generates demand for basic services everyone should be able to afford with their share of resources, while keeping a free market and allowing an economy on top with extra resources. Standard money could still be the means for value exchange, just taxing works differently.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#459A serious point about this is that it's an AI that's an organization. This matters. People laughed at Gas Town, and at that "Fences, not Sandboxes" article yesterday.[1] They're both AIs set up as an organization, not an emulated human. They're both expensive to operate, because the AI members of the organization spend a lot of time talking with each other. They're both applied to frivolous problems. Now we have the…
A related point that I've been making privately for at least ten years to anyone that would listen, is that we've had Superhuman Intelligence for at least hundreds, if not thousands, of years in the form of corporations and institutions. No single human could design a rocket to go to the moon or keep all Wallmart stores supplied on a daily basis. Moreover when something like the CEO or US president changes, the polic…
“ This is also what i believe is wrong with Searle's Chinese Room argument - the algorithm is the intelligence.”
“ and even what we call consciousness!”
This misunderstands the point of the so-called Chinese room thought experiment. You want to conclude that consciousness is functional, but you cite a thought experiment which argues it is not, and then assert the thought experiment is wrong because it disagrees with your preconceived notion of consciousness.
Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO
#460To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…
"I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure." Totally agree, For me it's becouse AI takes in places I've never explored before.