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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by rayiner »

sokoloff wrote: post #178
rayiner wrote: post #154

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That’s a common misconception. The U.S. actually became the world’s largest industrial power before World War I. Germany had 60% of the US’s GDP per capita in 1910. It dipped during the war itself, but by 1960 it was closer to 70%. https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/us-gdp-per-cap... .

Whether or not what you say is correct, it does not at all contradict GP’s two claims.

It contradicts the conclusion he’s drawing from those two facts, which is that U.S. economic dominance results from European economies having been destroyed after WWII. The U.S. became a world power during its isolationist phase prior to WWI.

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Post by nekusar »

mcmcmc wrote: post #73
goodluckchuck wrote: post #59

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Birthright citizenship is so weird, because when I think of my son’s birthright, I imagine things he’s entitled to because he’s my son. He’ll inherit from my estate, he’ll enjoy my love and encouragement and support, etc. The location of the hospital where he was born doesn’t really have anything to do with it, but now I have an entirely new fear about foreign countries claiming my child if my wife happens to give bi…

You can always relinquish citizenship. No one is forcing your child to be a dual citizen if they are born abroad.

Lol, no you can't. Most people these days can't.

Costs $2500 AND payment of all student debts.

This place (USA) is literally a fucking company town.

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Post by macintux »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #274
kashunstva wrote: post #195

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Surely you would admit that this Administration’s approach to immigration has been both chaotic and cruel. The workers who were given status in the United States expected a predictable process, not one that changes weekly based on the unserious personal whims of a bored, ill-informed and vindictive man. In any case, the prioritization of citizens’ wellbeing writ large is demonstrably _not_ a feature of this Administr…

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I wish, I desperately wish, this "both sides" fallacy would die.

There has not been this level of chaos in government decision-making in generations. I have no idea how far back you'd have to go to find a president changing the rules for business arbitrarily every single month.

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Post by nekusar »

typeofhuman wrote: post #329
nekusar wrote: post #291

Well, for starters, good. We all know this whole H1-B situation was to cripple wages and to get an indentured workforce. Glad its being "paused". Would love to it being modified to not being tied to a company, or gottennrid of for good. Sorry about the people who were using it, but also not sorry. Maybe we Americans can get some of those jobs the companies were scamming the govt with.

H1-Bs aren't being paused. This is for immigrant visas.

Pity. Cause that's the system that needs overhauled or killed.

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Post by xdennis »

unethical_ban wrote: post #324
xdennis wrote: post #308

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> You can not be simultaneously pro-legal immigration and support banning legal immigration. Nobody is banning legal immigration. It's being restricted. The headline itself says "pauses". Do you think no legal immigrant will be let into the US until 2028? > some sort of program where people apply for permission Yes, and if that program is being abused (just ask people here on HN about H1Bs to see how they feel), then…

You're giving the current government the benefit of the doubt, which I never do. In 2024, I didn't think we'd be murdering protesters in the streets or kidnapping heads of state or inciting global tariff wars paid for by US citizens or watching the president take billions of dollars of bribes using cryptocurrency. Why do you think thos government is responding to something in a good faith attempt at improving a syste…

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Post by [deleted] »

jimbo808 wrote: post #189
garbawarb wrote: post #35

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Or imagine if an employee works for you and this happens to them.

Hire Americans? Hundreds of thousands of tech workers have been laid off in the last two years. There are many skilled Americans on the job market. Foreign workers are here for the benefit of the United States, not as charity to the rest of the world, or as a source of cheaper labor for global employers seeking to undercut American wages.

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Post by throwaway85825 »

macintux wrote: post #333
throwaway85825 wrote: post #274

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I wish, I desperately wish, this "both sides" fallacy would die. There has not been this level of chaos in government decision-making in generations. I have no idea how far back you'd have to go to find a president changing the rules for business arbitrarily every single month.

I've spent the last month just dealing with new local government laws. This level of chaos has been the norm for a while now.

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Post by pfannkuchen »

diego_moita wrote: post #281
GetThemOut wrote: post #254

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The irony: many native Americans believe that all of your own immigrant ancestors should never be allowed to enter the US. If you really believe what you wrote then I'd suggest to "GetThemOut*" your own immigrant heritage out of the country. * as your trolling username says

There is no contradiction here. Different groups have different interests.

The natives rightly attempted to fight off the Europeans. They lost.

It does not follow that the Europeans here now should just let in whoever wants to come in, to the point that the Europeans themselves are outnumbered.

If the Europeans fight and the newcomers win, so be it. But why should the Europeans lay down and let it happen? Especially when they trivially have the ability to stop it, unlike the natives. For now, anyway…

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Post by ericmay »

JauntTrooper wrote: post #80
hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

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> His wife and child aren't citizens of his home country either, so it's not like they can move to be with him.

Why doesn’t their home country have a welcoming immigration plan allowing his spouse and child to move with him? Which country is this?

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