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Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#41
Hi guys,

Great app. Awesome UI.

Two things: 1 - Typo I noticed straight away: "Refer someone to wavo and increate your reach by +20." increate --> increase. 2 - On that note, how DO i refer someone? As in, how can the application know that it was I who referred them?

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#42

I would've loved to try it and I don't mind the Connect with Facebook option like some folks do (I prefer it). But I didn't try it because it said that you required access to my email address. No thanks. My email isn't hidden or special (it's in my profile, for example) but I have a real problem with giving it up in exchange for registration without a clear reason ("We need your email to do x, y, and z") and without…

Hi Scott,

To answer your question here: we use your email to send you notifications of likes/comments/follows as well as three emails a week of trending music on wavo. Eventually this email will be personalized to you. As for why it's not clear up front - we made a conscious effort to keep the landing page as clean as possible. Ideally, our explanation should be part of the facebook connect dialog, but that's not actually possible. Probably when we add multiple signin options, we'll add more explanatory text there.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#43

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Ah, interesting! Thanks for letting us know, we're looking into that right now. Regarding Facebook, we do require Facebook to login (as mentioned elsewhere, we're going to add other ways to log in soon) and we require the Facebook SDK for some of our social stuff. That said, we should handle this better - we shouldn't get stuck in a permanent loading loop!

It's amazing how much I miss out on because I don't have a Facebook account. I accept that this is a choice I made, but it's amazing how much of a second-class citizen it makes you feel like these days.

Really? What else have you missed out on that you'd otherwise want to use?

Plenty of sites have a prominent Facebook sign-in button they steer you towards, but will reluctantly give you a username/password, if you insist. Songkick, for instance, or the very cool 2u.fm site that another HNer posted here recently. Others accept Facebook or Twitter, or Facebook or Google.

But Facebook-only seems pretty uncommon. All I can think of are TechCrunch comments, and the Scoble-beloved Highlight app for iOS. Most developers seem to avoid going Facebook-only because they face a backlash (as the devs behind this site have acknowledged already).

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#45
Very much dislike having to use Facebook account...lame... If users want to integrate Facebook give that option to them, but dont exclusively require a FB login...laame

UI is a little confusing and could be overwhelming for alot of folks.

However...This is a nice idea here. I have found several really great songs I had never heard of before in minutes! Perfect for people at work wanting to find new tunes.

What happens if a video that is on the popular list is deleted at some point by the source?

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#46

Very much dislike having to use Facebook account...lame... If users want to integrate Facebook give that option to them, but dont exclusively require a FB login...laame UI is a little confusing and could be overwhelming for alot of folks. However...This is a nice idea here. I have found several really great songs I had never heard of before in minutes! Perfect for people at work wanting to find new tunes. What happen…

If the source video is deleted, Wavo simply skips that video and moves on to the next in the playlist.

And yeah, when we have the username/password pair sign-up, we'll simply have an option in the app preferences that will allow the user to additionally connect their facebook account if they like. If not - no problem.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#47

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Hey Andrew, wavo co-founder here. We definitely understand that some of our users prefer not to use the social sharing features of our app ; hence we added the capability to turn those off, either temporarily with the use of the "social-sharing" switch at the top of the interface --or-- permanently via the preference dialog that you can find in the top left menu.

Thanks for the response. I fully get why you're doing it and appreciate the options to turn them off. With that said, it's really just a band-aid to appease the vocal opponents. My mental model of sharing (and I'd bet it's shared by many others as well) is that there needs to be an explicit "sharing action" taken. I should know exactly what happens when I do something - I don't on your site. As a result, I never get…

You are definitely right and we'll be continually looking at better ways to integrate seamless sharing into the app.

Seamless sharing is also a "band-aid." It gets users sharing your app at the beginning but there's definitely some users who are turned off by it.

So although this is where a lot of our referral traffic comes from at the moment there are undoubtedly better ways to do this and we're working on it. These are early iterations on the product and we'll be circling back very soon.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#49
post #41

Hi guys, Great app. Awesome UI. Two things: 1 - Typo I noticed straight away: "Refer someone to wavo and increate your reach by +20." increate --> increase. 2 - On that note, how DO i refer someone? As in, how can the application know that it was I who referred them?

Sorry, I meant to reply earlier, but got distracted by a bug.

Thanks for pointing out the typo! That's probably been kicking around there for awhile now. :-)

Wavo detects a referral by checking for referral tokens in the url's querystring. When you share a song, share a playlist, etc, from within the app itself (with one of the share buttons, for example), Wavo crafts a url with this referral token. When a user follows that url and signs up, that referral is credited to you. Obviously, this doesn't catch everything (if you simply copy the url from the browser bar and share it with a friend, you won't get reach points), but it gets us part of the way there.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

#50
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing how much I miss out on because I don't have a Facebook account. I accept that this is a choice I made, but it's amazing how much of a second-class citizen it makes you feel like these days.

Really? What else have you missed out on that you'd otherwise want to use? Plenty of sites have a prominent Facebook sign-in button they steer you towards, but will reluctantly give you a username/password, if you insist. Songkick, for instance, or the very cool 2u.fm site that another HNer posted here recently. Others accept Facebook or Twitter, or Facebook or Google. But Facebook-only seems pretty uncommon. All I c…

Spotify was a big one, but it looks as though they added non-facebook signups back in recently.
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