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Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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Post by res0nat0r »

diggan wrote: post #29
glesperance wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Andrew, wavo co-founder here. We definitely understand that some of our users prefer not to use the social sharing features of our app ; hence we added the capability to turn those off, either temporarily with the use of the "social-sharing" switch at the top of the interface --or-- permanently via the preference dialog that you can find in the top left menu.

My own opinion is that people should begin with total control over their sharing, instead of default auto share, and eventually chose to share automatically if they want.

I think just based on the title of the HN submission is that this site is built from the ground up to encourage social sharing, so Facebook sharing seems like a sensible default based on that.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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Post by cclark20 »

blackysky wrote: post #19

I like wavo but before I tell you why I like it let me tell you what I don’t like. I simply hate the whole facebook sign in option… (looks like I’m not the only one) Therefore it’s been a long time since I had checked my wavo profile. I don’t hate facebook but sometimes you don’t want to share every single thing. Now what I like: the UI is great. Let me dig deeper and share with you my experience with wavo. Like I sa…

We recently added clearer ways to turn seamless sharing off with Facebook. You can either disable it for four hours by clicking on the switch in the top right or by going into your preferences and disabling it permanently.

Right now Facebook makes life easy in certain ways and is obviously an effective way to acquire users but we're getting to the point where we've got most of the basic user experience figured out so a secondary way of signing in is moving up in our priority list. Really glad you like the emails and hope we can get you on-boarded into the full experience soon.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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Post by vytasgd »

mnicole wrote: post #9
borgopants wrote: post #3

This looks really interesting, but to be completely honest, I lost all interest once I saw that there was no other option but to sign up with Facebook. As a developer, I understand the business and UX need for it, but it still manages to turn me away from really interesting services. It looks like you're looking to improve on this pain-point, so I'll definitely check this out later. :) I'd also love it if the About p…

This is my hold up too. I left Spotify to get away from Facebook.

You can share to just yourself on facebook or turn it off completely (within spotify's preferences, or within facebook's preferences)

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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blackysky wrote: post #19

I like wavo but before I tell you why I like it let me tell you what I don’t like. I simply hate the whole facebook sign in option… (looks like I’m not the only one) Therefore it’s been a long time since I had checked my wavo profile. I don’t hate facebook but sometimes you don’t want to share every single thing. Now what I like: the UI is great. Let me dig deeper and share with you my experience with wavo. Like I sa…

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Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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Post by colkassad »

astalwick wrote: post #8
graue wrote: post #7

FYI for anyone else running Ghostery: you have to disable it to get the site to load at all. Seems to get stuck in a permanent "loading" loop if it doesn't detect the FB social plugin script. Developers: if you care about privacy-conscious users, you may want to fix that.

Ah, interesting! Thanks for letting us know, we're looking into that right now. Regarding Facebook, we do require Facebook to login (as mentioned elsewhere, we're going to add other ways to log in soon) and we require the Facebook SDK for some of our social stuff. That said, we should handle this better - we shouldn't get stuck in a permanent loading loop!

It's amazing how much I miss out on because I don't have a Facebook account. I accept that this is a choice I made, but it's amazing how much of a second-class citizen it makes you feel like these days.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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Post by andrewcross »

glesperance wrote: post #26
andrewcross wrote: post #23

The UI is phenomenal, the overemphasis on Facebook sharing (not login) annoyed me though. I really, really don't want you auto-posting what I'm listening to/doing to Facebook. Spotify & Songza do it and it drives me insane. It's actually the main reason why I stopped using SocialCam & Viddy. I couldn't trust the service. "Normals" probably don't have the same problem with it, but I personally hate it. (As a side-note…

Hey Andrew, wavo co-founder here. We definitely understand that some of our users prefer not to use the social sharing features of our app ; hence we added the capability to turn those off, either temporarily with the use of the "social-sharing" switch at the top of the interface --or-- permanently via the preference dialog that you can find in the top left menu.

Thanks for the response. I fully get why you're doing it and appreciate the options to turn them off. With that said, it's really just a band-aid to appease the vocal opponents.

My mental model of sharing (and I'd bet it's shared by many others as well) is that there needs to be an explicit "sharing action" taken. I should know exactly what happens when I do something - I don't on your site. As a result, I never get to the "aha" moment because I'm afraid to click on anything.

Re: Show HN: Wavo.me - A social network for music to take on Spotify and iTunes.

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Post by ScottWhigham »

I would've loved to try it and I don't mind the Connect with Facebook option like some folks do (I prefer it). But I didn't try it because it said that you required access to my email address. No thanks. My email isn't hidden or special (it's in my profile, for example) but I have a real problem with giving it up in exchange for registration without a clear reason ("We need your email to do x, y, and z") and without a clear sense of whether you're going to sell my info.
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