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Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by aloisdg »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #137
ricardobeat wrote: post #93

The two linked issues are for the same bug report. A friend has been urging me to install Omarchy for months. I’ve finally caved in after a horrible experience with highly-praised CachyOS. All I can say is, I understand the hype. It works. The install is uncomplicated, no selecting from five legacy bootloaders, choosing versions or selecting a window manager. The tiled window manager works pretty much how I already u…

Isn't Omarchy very, very similar to cachyos?

Both are arched-based. CachyOS is not made by a fascist.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by 6P58r3MXJSLi »

skywhopper wrote: post #275
6P58r3MXJSLi wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he's been literal about ethnic cleansing, even though I strongly disagree with his political views on the matter. Anyway, he also supports open weights models, which IMO is a good thing. So maybe separate the artist from the art? He's not running for elections, that's for sure, so as a citizen he can have the political views he likes, doesn't mean the software is bad because of them.

He calls for removal of people based on their ethnicity. What would you call that?

As I've said before, I strongly disagree, but what I read is that he calls for the removal of those behaving in a way that (in his opinion) make the city of Copenhagen less safe, or at least that change the perceived security of the people living there.

Gypsies create issues almost everywhere in Europe, but it's not based on ethnicity, most of the ethnic Roma are fully integrated, some of them are not, in Italy many Sinte families are linked to mob and criminality in general.

Do they deserve special treatment because of their ethnicity?

And what if they are not regular citizens?

It's an open problem, DHH's solutions it's absolutely not my solution, but there's a still a difference between what he said and calling for ethnic cleansing.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by [deleted] »

TehCorwiz wrote: post #274
throwawaypath wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing in that linked comment points to where DHH specifically takes a stand against the "freedom to exist."

I disagree. Calling for ethnic cleansing counts to me as taking a stance against a group's right to existence.

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Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by hvdfhb »

teekert wrote: post #319
skywhopper wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, you should probably look into the open and loud politics of DHH before defending him.

What about "ignoring him, not knowing him, just using his product" is defending? Are you using Nestle products? Ah you do? You must be all for stealing people's water well and selling them bottled water from it.

Nestle is a lot harder to avoid than some blow hard blogger's shit dotfiles. it's not even a real distro

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Post by dborovikov »

hypfer wrote: post #145
dborovikov wrote: post #120

“Full of security holes" - and two examples in the article have been swiftly addressed, ignoring that there is a whole dedicated security team https://omarchy.org/teams/ What kind of blogging is this?

The problem with those two picked examples is that their nature displays a lack of basic care and due diligence. Of course, this is a culture war, but the point the blog post is making is that the Omarchy side is not exactly at the forefront of merit.

They move fast, that's for sure. But it also means they explore and fix problems fast. I don't think there is only "slow and careful" way to create things.

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Post by dcchambers »

markstos wrote: post #82

Apparently the Omarchy plugin ecosystem is also a free for all like the Arch AUR, except the audience includes people who are new to Linux and less likely to understand the risks.

Given the choice between a walled garden like Apple's app store or this, give me something open and more risky any day of the week.

It's easy enough for Omarchy folks to add "verified" or "trusted" developers down the line.

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Post by blactuary »

dijit wrote: post #315
TehCorwiz wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See links further down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49448069

I'm becoming really upset at people whom I otherwise align with for taking absolute statements that don't make sense. DHH said some stuff you disagree with, incidentally while I have always identified with strong social systems, welfare, high taxes and things like free healthcare, I can't say I disagree with the core of what he tried to say, because there has been seizemic ethnic change within a single generation - a…

> You have a right to exist, just not here,

"Irish need not apply" right?

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Post by mylidlpony »

Retr0id wrote: post #26
Hugsbox wrote: post #10

I'm somewhat out of the loop, and it's not really mentioned in the article, but what's with Omarchy getting this crazy amount of financial support from this list of fairly prominent individuals? Until a few weeks ago I'd never heard of it, then what I did hear is that it's being made by a very... uhh, eccentric(?) individual, and now it's suddenly got a crazy amount of funding. What am I missing?

It's a political statement disguised as a FOSS project (which itself is fine, all software is political). The funders are not funding the development of a Linux distro, they are co-signing the political statement.

I think a better fitting definition of what it is – notably absent from this entire comment section – is virtue, or rather vice, signaling.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by mylidlpony »

noir_lord wrote: post #189
pjmlp wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would have rails taken off if he was equally open about his politics back then?

It's impossible to know what his politics was back then in fairness. People's politics do often (but not always) change as they age.

Well, there were some tells... [0]

[0] https://www.vice.com/en/article/basecamp-didnt-just-ban-poli...

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by rpcope1 »

busterarm wrote: post #257
poulpy123 wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very far from it but I saw many exchanges in my twitter timeline (because now when you click on a tweet to read it or interact, the algorithm thinks it's your only interest in life). Do basically, they got 8 millions dollars of funding, they bragged and criticized others in linux and said some political stuff, they were also criticized by others including political stuff from the other side (not sure of the order…

> Personally I like my Linux distro like my coffee: competently managed, with a minimum of drama and with having to hear the less assholes possible. I've been using Linux since 1993 and at various points every distro under the sun and that perfectly describes exactly zero Linux distributions.

I mean, I feel like Debian has come pretty close to that for the last decade or two.
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