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Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by skywhopper »

kristofferR wrote: post #212
rblatz wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the people who have no idea who DHH is, what he stands for, and have heard about Omarchy for the first time just now and are trying to figure out what it even is and suddenly people are talking in circles about him being eccentric or problematic.

Yeah, this is so annoying. I switched to Omarchy 4.0 from CachyOS and is having an amazing experience so far, barely know anything about DHH other than that he made Rails, and now everybody is calling me a racist sympathizer.

Well, you should probably look into the open and loud politics of DHH before defending him.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by [deleted] »

curtisblaine wrote: post #256
IshKebab wrote: post #109

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I agree about most of what he's said (e.g. "The London I remember" is totally inaccurate but not actually offensive), but did you see this? https://world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so... > Because the sacred cow here is not just that mass migration must stop going forward. It's also that millions who are already in Europe must go. He's suggesting we round up all the brown people and deport them... (H…

To be fair, he's suggesting remigrating the illegal immigrants , that are millions in Europe. Unfortunately the European asylum laws are a big loophole: if you claim asylum and you're subsequently denied (sometimes after months or years), there's no legal way of sending you back to your original country against your will. That's why the hard right (and soon the center of right, and maybe some parts of the left) insis…

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Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by mwkaufma »

poulpy123 wrote: post #232
mdotmertens wrote: post #29

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omarchy is the new "i use arch, btw". I'm too altruistic (or dumb) to understand why you would pump money into a riced arch install. In some way I feel people just try to buy into "street cred" on the other hand omarchy could be a great launchpad for a distro that is customizable, easy enough to use and may provide a great MDM solution at some point.

What mean rice in this context ?

Cosmetic improvements. Term originates from observations of asian-associated car decorations, which based on context is either a bigoted pejorative or an ironic compliment.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by TehCorwiz »

throwawaypath wrote: post #262
TehCorwiz wrote: post #191

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See links further down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49448069

Nothing in that linked comment points to where DHH specifically takes a stand against the "freedom to exist."

I disagree. Calling for ethnic cleansing counts to me as taking a stance against a group's right to existence.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by skywhopper »

6P58r3MXJSLi wrote: post #259
lambda wrote: post #114

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He literally calls openly for the ethnic cleansing of undesirable populations from Europe. Just read his blog. There's no subtlety or nuance.

I don't think he's been literal about ethnic cleansing, even though I strongly disagree with his political views on the matter. Anyway, he also supports open weights models, which IMO is a good thing. So maybe separate the artist from the art? He's not running for elections, that's for sure, so as a citizen he can have the political views he likes, doesn't mean the software is bad because of them.

He calls for removal of people based on their ethnicity. What would you call that?

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by vova_hn2 »

Okay, but how cool is that this feature (hotkey to pass a video, that is open in the browser, to yt-dlp) exists and works out of the box?

It's unfortunate, that it was developed in a weird, insecure way, but I think that the fact that it exists is very cool.

I've heard about Omarchy long time ago, but didn't switch, because at some point in my life I started to prefer something that is rock solid and well supported (currently on Fedora Atomic with KDE) to new/shiny/bleeding edge. But still. I think that an overall good UX out of the box is composed of little things like this.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by skywhopper »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #216
lambda wrote: post #114

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He literally calls openly for the ethnic cleansing of undesirable populations from Europe. Just read his blog. There's no subtlety or nuance.

You're using the word "literally" very liberally here. Sending migrants back to their home countries is not ethnically cleansing.

Yes, that is literally what it is.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by busterarm »

donatj wrote: post #151
dborovikov wrote: post #120

“Full of security holes" - and two examples in the article have been swiftly addressed, ignoring that there is a whole dedicated security team https://omarchy.org/teams/ What kind of blogging is this?

The same kind as a similar recent post [1] where a person pointed out a bunch of problems with Omarchy's shell scripts as examples of it being terrible. Open a pull request. That's how this is supposed to work. Wisdom of the crowd and what not. 1. https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/

> Open a pull request.

As I've gotten older and more experienced, I've really embraced the "just shut up and fix it" mentality. If you're empowered to do something, any time you spend complaining about it not being done is adding to the noise and a negative contribution.

This applies in life and in work. Especially in work. I straight up just shift the discussion or leave meetings if people start complaining about problems that are within their abilities to fix. It happens so much and I don't have time for it anymore.

And if you can fix it and you don't want to, just stfu and move on with your life. For the sake of all of us.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by torstenvl »

andybak wrote: post #251
torstenvl wrote: post #223

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A minimal counterexample is a valid proof. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_counterexample Please don't make personal attacks on other posters.

"Proofs" in this sense of the word are things that apply to mathematics and formal systems. Language is squishy. A minimal counterexample is potentially squishy enough to be meaningless.

Incorrect. "all software is political" is a proposition; it can be true or false.

If any minimal counterexample exists, then "all software is political" must necessarily be false.

Re: Omarchy development practices lead to predictable security issues

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Post by thehappyfellow »

orwin wrote: post #130
colesantiago wrote: post #2

I don't know, Omarchy's team really don't care if you're complaining. Wouldn't the security team and the agents just go and fix the security holes? They have a dedicated security team now that is being paid for this: https://omarchy.org/security/ But having a dedicated security team is marketing? I'm sure with the $10M cash chest the security will just improve over time and this blog post will be irrelevant. I don't…

No, I don't like the style,but author is right here, you cannot secure insecure design. It needs to be reworked from scratch.

I'll take that.
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