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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by spacedcowboy »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #334
maherbeg wrote: post #123

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If I can get Sol level capabilities on a $20k machine, then it is well worth it for my employer to buy me that machine for work as a workstation. When you start paying in tokens vs subscription costs due to enterprise agreements, you really start to see how much cash utilizing frontier models at the frontier costs (and I'm efficiently using luna and other models where possible!)

I don't think this is accurate. Even using multiple windows in parallel for as many as 5-10 hours per day, I find that I am not fully using my claude max (20x) and chatgpt pro (20x) accounts. I can for sure use up the claude max account, but chatgpt either gives me a free reset before I run out of tokens or I just fail to use the full quota. The quota for Sol seems like 10x that of Claude Opus at the same level, and…

One of the advantages of LLM's is that you can set up a task list and tell it to burn through those tasks overnight. It's a rare night that Claude isn't busy for me, and I do burn through my 20x subscription, sufficiently that I downgrade from fable around about ... now in the week...

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by hyperbovine »

cute_boi wrote: post #178

> Apple’s developer frameworks and tools — including Core AI, Core ML, Metal, and Xcode Can we please kill the xcode. It is worst pile of garbage I have to use just to develop ios app.

This is why so many iOS apps these days are based on Electron/Capacitor/React Native/etc.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by dcow »

alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Can you characterize the deterioration more specifically? I only ask because every time I run this exercise for myself I end up back on macOS, despite any hiccups.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by boredtofears »

alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Weird, I'm still using my M1 Pro and it feels just as fast as it always has. MacOS feels almost identical to me as it did 5 years ago, too, except the ugly icon change.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by prmph »

alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Yep, vote with your wallets. It’s about time Apple learned that excellent hardware alone would not make up for what macOS lacks and where it fails for development.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by whatsThisBtn4 »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #347
derwiki wrote: post #176

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Reading Infinite Games, they tell an anecdote about a Microsoft exec on a flight telling an Apple exec that the Zune was a way better portable music player than the iPod. The Apple exec was just “yup, you’re probably right” and then soon after the iPhone dropped

To be fair, the Zune actually was a better media player than the ipod in almost every way. That wasn't a false statement. The issue was the abysmal marketing and "me too" attitude Microsoft had (and still has).

Apple excels in marketing. They are more similar to Nintendo than Nvidia.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by thsv32r2 »

Gud wrote: post #307
bayindirh wrote: post #117

I know, this is a bit of a meaningless comment, but it's funny in a way. Feels like late 90s again: - Xiaomi: We have matched Apple in CPU performance. - Apple: *Meep Meep...*

Except in the 90s, I could wield my OS of choice on the hardware I bought.

You can still have the 90s OS experience, even today, but these days we use the name bootloader, not operating system, for that amount of functionality.

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Post by moomoo11 »

intrasight wrote: post #56
mrtksn wrote: post #16

Apple Studio with maxed out M5 Ultra, 256GB RAM and 16TB storage is 18,299$. The 512GB RAM version apparently is coming in October, considering that the difference between 96GB and 256GB is priced at 4000$, the 512GB upgrade must be eye watering. So, on the mini the RAM upgrade runs at 25$ per GB on all tiers, the same as the Studio therefore the upgrade to 512 will probably cost 6400$. The fully maxed out Apple Stud…

So is downpayment on a house. I would buy the house and just pay for tokens as needed. The house will get more valuable and that wealth would buy a lot of tokens in the future - which will probably get cheaper. EDIT: or buy AAPL. If I had bought Apple stock instead of buying a Mac LC II in 1992, then I would have about $2 million in Apple stock.

why not buy the maxed out mac and then buy a metaverse house that you can live in virtually

problem solved /s

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by JauntyHatAngle »

chmod775 wrote: post #512
JauntyHatAngle wrote: post #462

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Whether or not you don't like the game, it's a weird misrepresentation to say it's made by Megan ellison. She's been the co-founder and major backer of Annapurna for a decade. She's not a developer, she's a publisher, and this game is one of the tons of games Annapurna has put out over a decade. I get that Annapurna is a lightning rod of politics due to ellison and is increasingly under scrutiny for many debates but…

Despite all the exposure the game has gotten, it currently has less online players[1] than games like "Tennis Elbow 4"[2] (by a factor of 4). It's not even in the top 5000, because it is objectively terrible. People would rather play the original Life is Strange one more time (despite a remaster being out), than play this game. At some point you really have to start getting suspicious why it keeps coming up. The numb…

It's not objectively terrible. It's subjective - entirely.

It is a 3 hour long game with 4k or so reviews.

Life is strange original has 70K reviews and is 14 hours long.

The remaster has 4000+ reviews and again, is 14 hours long. These games are also all time favourites that fans do replay from time to time. If has more replayability than mixtape, despite it being fairly linear.

A 3 hour one time only game does not retain players on the charts like a game that takes multiple play sessions to finish. Or a game like "tennis elbow" which has far lower max concurrent (like, nowhere near the concurrent max mixtape has) but is a sim game that if it's your jam you will repeatedly come back to.

Its very simple - it's not a game for you, and you have to understand that these types of games absolutely have their niche fandoms who love this kind of stuff.

There is no conspiracy here, artsy titles like this have always, across all mediums, got a disproportional critical appreciation vs more traditional titles.

It's just the same old story. Yes people do like these games. No they are not the majority. Yes you can just ignore it, no it's not a conspiracy.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by whatsThisBtn4 »

bob1029 wrote: post #348
VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #346

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Seems most computer companies are still boasting that they can beat the M1 and it's like...congrats on beating a 6 year old chipset?

I still have zero urgency in upgrading from my M1 MBP.

I have 0 urgency buying something more expensive than a $150 refurbished i5 16gb ram laptop.

Local AI isnt useful for agent stuff.

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