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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by hex4def6 »

saturn8601 wrote: post #449
VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the Zune actually was a better media player than the ipod in almost every way. That wasn't a false statement. The issue was the abysmal marketing and "me too" attitude Microsoft had (and still has).

I recall reading this story of some user doing a sync with Zune on their new computer. The computer had no songs on it and the Zune synced with that machine and wiped all the existing music off his Zune without warning him(or something like that its been years). I recall thinking, yep thats Microsoft. And to this day I still encounter dumb ways of thinking in many of their products. The endless negative stories I hea…

I remember Microsoft introduced a DRM / certification program they called "Playsforsure".

Two years later they introduce the Zune, which could not play "Playsforsure" music people had purchased from MSN..

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by JauntyHatAngle »

throwfaraway135 wrote: post #411

"M6 features a powerful, larger 12-core GPU that provides higher geometry rates and updated Dynamic Caching to deliver stunning visuals and fluid frame rates in demanding games like Mixtape." Why choose the worst game of the year? Just because it's made by the daughter of Larry Ellison?

Whether or not you don't like the game, it's a weird misrepresentation to say it's made by Megan ellison.

She's been the co-founder and major backer of Annapurna for a decade.

She's not a developer, she's a publisher, and this game is one of the tons of games Annapurna has put out over a decade.

I get that Annapurna is a lightning rod of politics due to ellison and is increasingly under scrutiny for many debates but they are a mainstay of the industry, hardly a blow in, and like it or not, a lot of the games industry and media really like these kinda of artistic pieces, with this being yet another instance of the age old walking simulator debate.

It should be judged on its own merits. Not it's Annapurna link and it's not a shock to see it come up in an artsy Apple Mac hipster circle.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by reaperducer »

bayindirh wrote: post #117

I know, this is a bit of a meaningless comment, but it's funny in a way. Feels like late 90s again: - Xiaomi: We have matched Apple in CPU performance. - Apple: *Meep Meep...*

Xiaomi: We have matched Apple in CPU performance.

Apple: Meep Meep...

This seems to happen repeatedly.

Apple: Look at this cool new chip!

Others: Look how we very slightly passed Apple (six months later, with worse thermals and power consumption)

Apple: Look at this even cooler new chip!

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by searealist »

maherbeg wrote: post #123
SilverSlash wrote: post #25

The 512GB Ultra is amazing, sure. But who is it for exactly? VC funded big spender founders? In that case why would they need local AI? The ultra rich enthusiast? But there can't be too many of those. So who actually buys these?

If I can get Sol level capabilities on a $20k machine, then it is well worth it for my employer to buy me that machine for work as a workstation. When you start paying in tokens vs subscription costs due to enterprise agreements, you really start to see how much cash utilizing frontier models at the frontier costs (and I'm efficiently using luna and other models where possible!)

Don't forget about electricity costs, esp in California. Even with free hardware you may be better off using APIs.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by bigfishrunning »

artisin wrote: post #284
simlevesque wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They pionneered unified memory a few years ago.

No. Apple did not invent or pioneer the concept of unified or shared memory, but they did create an exceptional implementation of it.

I feel like this is true of almost everything apple does -- they take something clunky from a year ago and "pioneer it" by improving the UX.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by staticman2 »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #347
derwiki wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading Infinite Games, they tell an anecdote about a Microsoft exec on a flight telling an Apple exec that the Zune was a way better portable music player than the iPod. The Apple exec was just “yup, you’re probably right” and then soon after the iPhone dropped

To be fair, the Zune actually was a better media player than the ipod in almost every way. That wasn't a false statement. The issue was the abysmal marketing and "me too" attitude Microsoft had (and still has).

From what I recall Zune had a much bigger screen for videos so I bought one for that reason you can see the side by side here:

https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/zune-ipod.htm

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by kombine »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #203
Axsuul wrote: post #163

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I had a chance to try Omarchy past few days and it's just very different vs macOS. I honestly never had a problem with the windowing system ever since I built my own customization scripts (i.e. Hammerspoon). I can see the appeal for someone who wants ultimate customization though but macOS still wins overwhelmingly when it comes to polish, ecosystem, user experience, and apps (nothing comes close).

It’s not just Omarchy, there’s really not much out there in the desktop Linux sphere for those who are mostly happy with how macOS works out of the box. Everything is either in a similar vein to the Omarchy setup (hyper-minimal tiling WM), Windows-like (KDE, Cinnamon, most other DEs), or a chimera with a grab bag of design bits from every desktop and mobile platform (GNOME, Pantheon, COSMIC). It’s a bit depressing be…

KDE Plasma is as good as it gets if you'd like to transition from MacOS:

https://pointieststick.com/2025/10/04/a-mac-like-experience-...

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by JauntyHatAngle »

anshumankmr wrote: post #6

>fluid frame rates in demanding games like Mixtape. not getting on that bandwagon but wasn't that not the most demanding game as its a just a nonstop cutscene.

But it has the right creative vibe which is the point really. Apple has a general creative aesthetic which plays well with artsy games like mixtape.

It's a very deliberate choice when if it doesn't make sense to gamers.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by [deleted] »

ActorNightly wrote: post #453
mark_l_watson wrote: post #363

I run a lot of local models (I am always experimenting) on my 32G M2-Pro MacMini - I would love to upgrade. The financial aspects don’t work however: I can learn and experiment with what I have for local models, and I pay as I go on FireWorks.ai for open model inferencing and no matter how much I use this service my monthly bill is between $10 and $40 and much faster than any reasonable home rig. Hybrid ‘small local’…

Honest question - why are you so stuck on Macs for local inference? A 4 GPU linux box with 3090s, which are $1500 a piece right now, will blow this thing out of the water. Even 2x3090 rig will run most of the good local models like Gemma4:31b at 100+ tok/sec The VRAM of the GPUs are MUCH faster than the unified ram within Apple Silicon. The only difference is the initial model load, which takes longer from disk to VR…

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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by darg01 »

saturn8601 wrote: post #449
VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the Zune actually was a better media player than the ipod in almost every way. That wasn't a false statement. The issue was the abysmal marketing and "me too" attitude Microsoft had (and still has).

I recall reading this story of some user doing a sync with Zune on their new computer. The computer had no songs on it and the Zune synced with that machine and wiped all the existing music off his Zune without warning him(or something like that its been years). I recall thinking, yep thats Microsoft. And to this day I still encounter dumb ways of thinking in many of their products. The endless negative stories I hea…

I was a zune user. I had my music organised meticulously and could simply drag and drop to my zune from my (parents) windows desktop. It was simple and it was fantastic.

Then I got a iPod so I needed to download iTunes. I downloaded iTunes, it told me to import my music. I imported my meticulously organised collection. It duplicated every single file into the iTunes approved format (AAC?) - my meticulous collection was now less meticulous, messy even.

It caused me to swear off Apple products for decades. Though it also led me to some very basic programming in order to delete the duplicates. I was only partially successful.

Programming led me to use Linux, before I eventually moved over to Mac. I like to think this was their plan all along.

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