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Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Maybe they will have to use/repair/upgrade the ones they already own?

Problem with that is so few of them are repairable these days. Laptops just kind of fall apart over time.

Thinkpad and Framework are notable brands for easily replaced components. They should run forever if you just replace moving parts like fans and keyboards.

Macs, as nice as the hardware is, are hostile to repair.

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Capitalism will lead to: - Lots of options competing on quality, price, user experience, user needs - Every marketplace innovation that we talk about on this platform So somebody might offer exactly that and if it's a good option, people will use it. If it's not, they'll use an alternative. Government regulation will lead to: - Giant entrenched companies that are difficult to disrupt thanks to insider connections - L…

*gestures at prices*

Quantitative easing and fiscal stimulus entered the chat a while ago.

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> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying. I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud.

Apple is already leasing phones/computers..........

My take: this was done to pull consumers back into the cycle of upgrading to every new release. iPhones already do so much more than most people need. With the RAM price hikes, even though there was an influx of sales (according to a store rep) initially, I think Apple was expected a significant decline; people just choosing to stick with their current device to avoid paying the premium.

Leasing not only allows Apple to keep "selling" people new devices, it will also mostly like accelerate the second-hand sales and resource recycling arms of the business. Consumers will be more willing to upgrade sooner and stay in perpetual payments vs having to buy out the device at lease end - and Apple gets back newer devices where the recycled tech is arguably more valuable.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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After watching a video about how the filesystems are > 2x faster (and testing this myself in my mac mini vs a linux machine), I feel like Apple is leaving a lot on the table, and I hope that they get APFS to be as fast as the linux filesystems. Because otherwise a lot of this hardware (including their blazing fast SSDs) is wasted. Cuz my M1 mac mini is awesome otherwise.

Is APFS that much slower than ZFS or btrfs (more comparable Linux file systems) or just ext4? Btrfs is noticeably slower than ext4, but at least all the Mac and Linux file systems are way faster than file operations on Windows :)

Here's a very recent video benchmarking APFS vs ZFS, btrfs, and XFS+: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wVNFaFDIn8

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> Up to 2x faster gaming performance with ray tracing in Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition when compared to Mac mini with M4. Interesting that Apple quotes performances when playing Cyberpunk 2077 ! Maybe they will want to care more about gaming ? And while i'm at it, I was wondering a few weeks ago if I should try this game on my M3 pro. Anyone has played it on Apple and has feedback ?

Apple does this thing where they pick a very old game and then boast about how well it runs. It's so bizarre. Not like Mac gaming is good anyway...they have "Game Porting Toolkit" but it's not free and open like Proton so nobody will use it unless Apple pushes them. Removing Rosetta doesn't help either.

Cyberpunk is THE PC benchmark game since it released

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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So happy with my base M4 purchase for $499 when it released. I even snagged a 1TB replacement drive for $199 a year ago. Feels like I got the last train out.

Same thing for me! Got it with the education discount when it came out in 2024 and, although I've been pretty disappointed with macOS, it's crazy to see that the price increased by $300 in less than 2 years, with no sign of the price increases slowing down. What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying.

> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers?

If it persists for years people will have time to spin up more fabs and meet demand

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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I feel that way about my GPU for normal gaming use. Now I’m afraid of it dying on me.

Consider underclocking/undervolt it a little, especially if you aren’t using the GPU to its full potential. It will last longer and hopefully the GPU prices will recover in a few years. I hope

I'm still running a 32GB V100 ...

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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What I am missing in all of those benchmarks, how does the M6 compares to the M5 Pro. I don't care how the M6 compares to the M1, even when the M6 2.3x compared to M1 in Excel spreadsheet. That is no measurement even in accounting. The dead time is not the Excel. I am to only one?

The big difference you're not looking at is the memory bandwidth. The M5 Pro has nearly twice the one of the M6: 170GB/s memory bandwidth Configurable up to 32GB unified memory 307GB/s memory bandwidth Configurable up to 64GB unified memory That is also the factor you want to take into account for AI inference, of course.

Both are still very low for AI btw.
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