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Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by drob518 »

KronisLV wrote: post #74
Waterluvian wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that way about my GPU for normal gaming use. Now I’m afraid of it dying on me.

I’m currently hoping that my Intel Arc B580 doesn’t die on me cause even a 5060 Ti 16 GB has reached like 700 EUR price over here. I don’t think the prices will get better anytime soon. Same with my M1 Air for being on the move, even notebooks would be more expensive than they’re worth.

I’m milking my M1 Air, too. It’s still going strong, and I just can’t justify replacing it. Would love 64GB or more memory, though.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by iamacyborg »

easywood wrote: post #90
brightball wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Capitalism will lead to: - Lots of options competing on quality, price, user experience, user needs - Every marketplace innovation that we talk about on this platform So somebody might offer exactly that and if it's a good option, people will use it. If it's not, they'll use an alternative. Government regulation will lead to: - Giant entrenched companies that are difficult to disrupt thanks to insider connections - L…

So, government regulation will lead to all bad things we see today in capitalism? But capitalism won't. This is not very sound logic.

Hey now, let’s not burst his utopic bubble.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by thewebguyd »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #41
KJs6ZxELzQM37O wrote: post #27

The "up to" and "Yx" compared to three generations ago specs from Apple. Never change.

I think there's a valid argument for this pattern when you know most people are on 3-ish year upgrade cycles. Also, if you compare against the most recent generation, you risk creating buyer's remorse for recent purchases.

I'd imagine most are on longer than 3 years for computers. Most (non developers) I know hang onto their laptops and computers until they die or get spec constrained, and that ends up being around ~6 or 7 years, so in this case the comparison to the M1/M1 Max makes sense, as for the next couple years that's going to be the cohort that's looking to upgrade.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by FinnLobsien »

steveBK123 wrote: post #67
FinnLobsien wrote: post #58

Not a surprise with John Ternus taking the reigns as CEO in a week, who was previously SVP of hardware engineering. I can't hate a direction where Apple becomes more about building great computers rather than trying to force more and more subscriptions. I do wish they would fix many of the long-standing OS and native app problems.

I do worry that at this point it's no longer just Apple's problem to solve. They need to figure out a way to take the rest of the industry with it. Maybe if their standards are high enough everyone else will look bad by comparison. My daily driver personal machines are incredible pieces of kit, but everything is always getting worse because majority of software is some SaaS living in the cloud, or even if on-desktop…

I agree with you, but I also think sadly most consumers don't really care about this. The reason the internet is in the state it's in is because most people tolerate it.

Most people simply don't care about using well-made software so long as it gets the job done because they don't even look at other options. I suppose this is how carpenters feel when they see ubiquitous IKEA furniture.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by amelius »

tiagod wrote: post #76
amelius wrote: post #55

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> but at European prices of over €1000 for M6/16GB/256GB it's a psychological barrier that's been broken. We should be buying European solutions anyway. Different psychological barrier that was broken long before.

What's the European alternative to a Mac Mini?

IMEC Mini.

https://www.imec-int.com/en

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by Insanity »

The M-chips are insanely powerful. So powerful for my regular use that I'm still on M1-generated devices and don't really need to update. Perhaps in a few years when both local-running LLMs are good enough on regular consumer hardware there'll be a good reason to upgrade.

As a disclaimer though, I haven't even tried to really run local models on the M1 as I also have a 'gaming PC' that can run them fine.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by xutopia »

Insanity wrote: post #97

The M-chips are insanely powerful. So powerful for my regular use that I'm still on M1-generated devices and don't really need to update. Perhaps in a few years when both local-running LLMs are good enough on regular consumer hardware there'll be a good reason to upgrade. As a disclaimer though, I haven't even tried to really run local models on the M1 as I also have a 'gaming PC' that can run them fine.

I feel much the same. I feel like the next time I upgrade I could splurge a bit more and get a really bigger CPU and storage to be even more productive with.

However the main reason I would upgrade is to run LLMs locally and RAM prices are making this a no-go. One day if RAM comes down to earth I'll upgrade. If not I'll stick to this old machine for a long time.

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by seanp2k2 »

brightball wrote: post #79
iamacyborg wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying. I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud.

Capitalism will lead to: - Lots of options competing on quality, price, user experience, user needs - Every marketplace innovation that we talk about on this platform So somebody might offer exactly that and if it's a good option, people will use it. If it's not, they'll use an alternative. Government regulation will lead to: - Giant entrenched companies that are difficult to disrupt thanks to insider connections - L…

for all values of spherical cows in a vacuum

Re: New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro

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Post by mathisfun123 »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #47
abricq wrote: post #3

> Up to 2x faster gaming performance with ray tracing in Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition when compared to Mac mini with M4. Interesting that Apple quotes performances when playing Cyberpunk 2077 ! Maybe they will want to care more about gaming ? And while i'm at it, I was wondering a few weeks ago if I should try this game on my M3 pro. Anyone has played it on Apple and has feedback ?

Apple does this thing where they pick a very old game and then boast about how well it runs. It's so bizarre. Not like Mac gaming is good anyway...they have "Game Porting Toolkit" but it's not free and open like Proton so nobody will use it unless Apple pushes them. Removing Rosetta doesn't help either.

> Game Porting Toolkit" but it's not free and open like Proton so nobody will use it unless Apple pushes them.

I don't know what this means - game porting toolkit is free

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