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How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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post #827

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> that Brexit was an unrepeatable disaster (which it wasn't, check the data for yourself). OK thanks I'll go find and check the data to back up your claim

I still remember the articles saying that Britons will have no food on shelves after Brexit.

And no flights to Europe !! Since then, both Ryanair and Easyjet have OPENED new flights.between the UK and mainland Europe...

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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Those will obviously be exempt?

If the law wouldn't say 24 hours counting only working hours (3 working days for small business or even weeks during vacations), then it wouldn't be an exempt.

No you misunderstood it:

https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/product-security/single-r...

> Reporting process starts at the moment manufacturer becomes aware of active exploitation of vulnerability or incident.

If your business is closed (due to vacation or sickness for example) you don't become aware until you are back.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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I like the pundits, who sit in their office chair, who never did anything that involves business, not even organized a charity nor event, but want to lecture a maker about how wrong he is and how he can comply with EU regulation.

This is the trademark of the EU: free market means, guys in office chairs lecture makers, how to play their game.

Imposing more regulation is of course helpful, because it enables more state employees to lecture others.

This is so bogus and wrong, it is FBR.

The new EU regulation makes you track like a spy on a package in a foreign country and report about its whereabouts - while open borders and controls are very lax for other things.

Let that sink in: picture it that you personally watch and report what happens to every package you use. What a joke. How comes, human kind survived 100.000 years without the ingenious of the EU?

And the best part: Regulators tell the states to ignore their law...

What a place to be...

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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post #747

I've been following the PPWR in news and social media. Everybody is lamenting about the micro-enterprises that see their business squashed, but mostly because they are involved in one. I do empathize with them and really want to see these small business surviving and thriving. But then, in the context of discussion, nobody asks what matters: Cui bono? To me, this looks like a direct handout to Amazon and similar (big…

Amazon doesn't care about guys like Lectronz, they're far too small, and the EU Commission really doesn't care about Amazon. They're openly antagonistic to US tech firms. Occam's Razor applies here. These regulations exist because the EU is 10,000+ civil servants writing whatever laws they want with no meaningful democratic accountability (this sort of thing is nobody's priority). They love creating new laws, they lo…

When economists struggle disentangling the effects of brexit from the pandemic, an actual disaster, and so can't really determine if brexit was a disaster, I feel like you can't honestly say it wasn't. But still, while it's hard to gauge how bad the effect was, few experts seems to think it was good.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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I don't know if this EU regulation will work or not (most likely not), but I can share how it is done in China (where package volume is orders of magnitude higher). China identifies "choke points" most packages pass: large platforms and logistics companies. Yes, Chinese e-commerce is more centralized on Alibaba/JD/PDD etc, but there are actually much more logistics companies in China than in EU. They also do not intr…

> They also do not introduce these regulations "from tomorrow" This wasn't introduced "from tomorrow", people had 1 year and a half to prepare for this (at least) or to protest this. See some comments below how individual countries actually messed this up. > But of course EU is fundamentally different in a way that the politicians need to please the electorate, so nothing is really planned ahead. > I don't know if th…

>people had 1 year and a half to prepare for this (at least) or to protest this.

“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now.”

- Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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post #747

I've been following the PPWR in news and social media. Everybody is lamenting about the micro-enterprises that see their business squashed, but mostly because they are involved in one. I do empathize with them and really want to see these small business surviving and thriving. But then, in the context of discussion, nobody asks what matters: Cui bono? To me, this looks like a direct handout to Amazon and similar (big…

Amazon doesn't care about guys like Lectronz, they're far too small, and the EU Commission really doesn't care about Amazon. They're openly antagonistic to US tech firms. Occam's Razor applies here. These regulations exist because the EU is 10,000+ civil servants writing whatever laws they want with no meaningful democratic accountability (this sort of thing is nobody's priority). They love creating new laws, they lo…

I don't have a horse in this race, but sources I found claim Brexit was economically detrimental to this day, including but not limited to the wiki page and its citations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_of_Brexit

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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I don't know if this EU regulation will work or not (most likely not), but I can share how it is done in China (where package volume is orders of magnitude higher). China identifies "choke points" most packages pass: large platforms and logistics companies. Yes, Chinese e-commerce is more centralized on Alibaba/JD/PDD etc, but there are actually much more logistics companies in China than in EU. They also do not intr…

The "choke point" approach makes more sense. Regulating a few large logistics companies is much easier than enforcing rules on millions of small sellers. The risk is that EU regulation ends up becoming a competitive advantage for Amazon and other big platforms.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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The US is wealthier, has more billionaires and has fewer of these barriers for small entrepreneurs. So no, this is not the monocausal explanation that applies equally everywhere. (YES, the US has regulatory capture, YES the wealthy attempt to use it, YES we should try to eliminate it here too, but it remains true that it is easier to run a small business in the US, while having more billionaires. There are other expl…

I'm not sure I agree. I find the Delaware & IRS forms and systems archaic/byzantine compared to e.g. the UK system.

Why do you deal with any of it? As a small business use Stripe Atlas or whatever.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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I don't know if this EU regulation will work or not (most likely not), but I can share how it is done in China (where package volume is orders of magnitude higher). China identifies "choke points" most packages pass: large platforms and logistics companies. Yes, Chinese e-commerce is more centralized on Alibaba/JD/PDD etc, but there are actually much more logistics companies in China than in EU. They also do not intr…

> Could EU just ask DHL/Hermes/whatever to charge an additional €1 "for recycling"? Yes, but... The biggest problem in Europe is the obsession with taxes. Tax on recycling, tax on AI, tax on this, tax on that. So people who want to make money and keep it without having to fight absurd amounts of regulation and red tape just go elsewhere.

Externalities have costs and if they aren't accounted for then there's no incentive for reducing those.

Taxes are used as a way to account for the cost to society when products and services aren't pricing it.

Re: How Europe is killing makers and micro-entrepreneurs

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It seems odd to blame lobbying (which you could also "rule of the universe" out of existence by saying everyone lobbies to some extent) when you seem to actually be blaming EU governments for being so hostile to SMBs.

All regulations favour some groups more than others. Exempting small business could easily be viewed as hostile / corrupt regulation disfavouring large entities. These kinds of regulations are usually not even welcome by larger companies, but there is less pushback. 'packaging' isn't the place to use the c-word.

makes perfect sense bc in a world ruled by big corpos, govs are captured and work in their interests, so they become hostile to SMBs.

> Exempting small business could easily be viewed as hostile / corrupt regulation disfavouring large entities.

then let's PLEASE have MORE of these "corrupt" and "hostile" regulations, it's clear that in a more and more chaotic global economy only a swarm of small players can change direction fast enough, with some support from big corpos providing economies of scale only in selected sectors (energy, resources extraction, hardware, AI deployment/inference optimizations, healthcare and just a few others)

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