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MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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My goodness, this has nothing to do with AI problems. I don't understand that people still buy an OS from a company that actively hates it's customers. The amount of things they pull should not even be succesful on a OS you get paid FOR to use.

> I don't understand that people still buy an OS from a company that actively hates it's customers.

Do you really think this is a problem confined to those who buy the OS they use?

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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There's a bunch of smaller editors that don't have such problems, like paint.net for example. It's an arbitrary "limit" (accidental even) stemming purely from bad quality implementation of basic features, not from how basic that feature set is.

I like the original commenter’s compromise. > It seems like they could have left it as a pure “paint” app and added the fancy stuff to some new image editor or something. Apple Text Edit vs Pages.

Again, even a "pure" paint app with very limited functionality can have it be implemented badly, and it has nothing to do with how "fancy" or complex or advanced of a feature set it has.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#373

My goodness, this has nothing to do with AI problems. I don't understand that people still buy an OS from a company that actively hates it's customers. The amount of things they pull should not even be succesful on a OS you get paid FOR to use.

Not that I love Microsoft, but they would get a lot of heat if they let anybody generate harmful content as well. They can't win on that topic. Now I would not want to appear to defend the mess they've created out of windows, that's not the point.

> Not that I love Microsoft, but they would get a lot of heat if they let anybody generate harmful content as well.

Nonsense. They let anyone draw any pic they like.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Injecting hidden GUIDs into local files without explicit user consent is a massive privacy overreach. It makes you wonder what other local tools are silently tagging user generated content.

The question is whether LLM providers are going to do this. Anthropic currently says they don’t, but it’s impossible to verify: > Watermarking carries no identifying information and can’t be traced to a specific person, organization, or chat; https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark

Probably just means they haven't (yet) figured out how to do the watermarking carrying enough bits of data to encode a GUID.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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post #347

Injecting hidden GUIDs into local files without explicit user consent is a massive privacy overreach. It makes you wonder what other local tools are silently tagging user generated content.

The question is whether LLM providers are going to do this. Anthropic currently says they don’t, but it’s impossible to verify: > Watermarking carries no identifying information and can’t be traced to a specific person, organization, or chat; https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark

At least, according to the very trustworthy Claude.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Can this also be weaponized? Get an innocuous image from someone you don't like, grab their GUID, add it to another image, sent it to the thin skinned politician in power.

No, because the GU in GUID stands for globally unique. Adding it to a second image would cause a detectable collision. Also, C2PA, another technology mentioned in the article, means tampering is easily detected.

> Adding it to a second image would cause a detectable collision

So? Still the weapon worked.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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> every image you create *with the help of AI*. Does in fact make a difference.

While it does make a difference, their willingness to quietly integrate watermarking features into what people saw as simple apps for doing simple tasks is unnerving. It only takes a small change for them to start baking your identifiable information into all images they edit, or some government politely asking them to do that. I wonder if in ten years we'll have a horrifying world where everything that leaves a mach…

Imagine the horrifying world where nothing is - and a so-called AI is thereby free to impersonate anyone.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Maybe you were "tricked into", but probably not forced. We are free to refuse, at cost, but free.

The cost is that you can never play Minecraft again

It might be small cost in retrospect.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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The cost is that you can never play Minecraft again

It might be small cost in retrospect.

Nah I sunk many thousands of hours into these accounts; definitely not a small cost. Sure I could get a new account and pay twice for the game I already purchased multiple times - that would’ve ground my gears too
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