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MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#321
My goodness, this has nothing to do with AI problems.

I don't understand that people still buy an OS from a company that actively hates it's customers.

The amount of things they pull should not even be succesful on a OS you get paid FOR to use.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a huge number of gamers moving to things like CachyOS. Some are stuck because of Valorant, LoL or Battlefield DRM, but it's a big move lately.

I'd never play one of those games but the excuse for the kernel modules spying on you is usually anti-cheat not DRM as they are online games. There are droves of people petitioning Valve to add kernel anti–cheat to CS2.

It's both and the main reason why anti-cheat is needed is the central matchmaking model, which is itself a form of DRM. If people were still hosting smaller community-moderated servers there would not be a need for invasive anti-cheat but people could also pay on cracked servers without paying.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know a certain dictator denies access to the country they control based on whether visitors "like" them? They use a private militia, funded by stealing from taxpayers, in contravention to that country's laws, to target citizens who are not supporters of them. Some of those citizens get shipped abroad to foreign prisons by these militia. Others get shot in summary executions in the streets - the controlling regime…

I had assumed parent-poster was making a sincere but humorous point, as opposed to sarcastically dismissing the risks of a change in management, but I suppose it's ambiguous.

Good satire is often indistinguishable from fundamentalism.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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post #104

These days i cant recommend Windows to anybody. Even gamers should move to linux. Some say "i do nothing illegal" "have nothing to hide". You dont do anything illegal in your point of view. AI tracking you might think otherwise. A sudden knock on your door might happen because of an ambigious search/propmt.

Others say "I need it to work on a random Thursday, not wait for fsck after ever reboot" https://github.com/IceWhaleTech/CasaOS/issues/1104

Do those users use the OS that randomly takes hours to shut down because it desperately needs to install updates right now - and then it won't shut down at all and reboot instead. And even if it doesn't do that shutdown takes ages and you need to attend it and can't just walk away because the OS will drop you in a logged in desktop when some random application decides to interrupt the shutdown process.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#325

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> Microsoft to instantly get your full name, address, email, phone number, and any other data associated with your Microsoft account. Provided you bent the knee and created a Microsoft account.

I was forced to create multiple as part of the mojang migration - truly a nightmarish experience to use their AuthN, haven’t seen something quite as bad since

Maybe you were "tricked into", but probably not forced. We are free to refuse, at cost, but free.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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post #69

How resistant is it to dithering? Can you just add +-1 randomly to each pixel r,g and b values and throw it off?

Probably not, if it's this kind of thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptual_hashing

Randomizing bit 0 might not be enough but if you know the algorithm used (and you do in this case because it is applied locally) then you can always replace the embedded data with random noise.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#327

My goodness, this has nothing to do with AI problems. I don't understand that people still buy an OS from a company that actively hates it's customers. The amount of things they pull should not even be succesful on a OS you get paid FOR to use.

Not that I love Microsoft, but they would get a lot of heat if they let anybody generate harmful content as well.

They can't win on that topic.

Now I would not want to appear to defend the mess they've created out of windows, that's not the point.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

#328

My goodness, this has nothing to do with AI problems. I don't understand that people still buy an OS from a company that actively hates it's customers. The amount of things they pull should not even be succesful on a OS you get paid FOR to use.

Microsoft is still the best Indian OS manufacturer. And as such, it's forced upon people throats by corrupt Indian IT department heads, so a few non Indian people who actually care don't have a choice.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the article instead of the headline…….. it’s adding a fairly standard mark to AI generated images to let’s others know, in the same manner a giant swath of the GebAI industry has agreed to.

It's a problem on so many levels. We've probably lost the fight over GenAI marks, at least for now, and I do understand the need for them. However the same technology that can embed an invisible watermark that survives a round of photographing, printing, crumbling and scanning back - can be used to embed more information than just "it's AI generated". Encoding GUID is just a harbinger; as a next step, why not encode…

EU law requires the mark. Did you know about the level of the “so many levels”? If such a large market requires behavior by law, and quite reasonably so, it’s also quite reasonable to mark AI generated content as such.

All the slippery slope nonsense on this page has failed so many times it’s not worth debating. If you don’t like this tool, use another. When they embed your social security number and face and address in the mark get back to me.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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post #117

Until proven otherwise via open-source audits and reproducible binaries, you should assume that all commercial photo editing software is embedding watermarks in any way they can get away with. This includes the professional software that you pay quite expensive licenses for. You should also assume that even if they're not today, they will eventually be coerced into doing so, in the same way that printers embed tracki…

You should however not accept this state of affairs even if you exclusively use open source software because the next step is that it become illegal to have photo editing software that doesn't include the tracking information needed to protect the children, fight terrorists or whatever the boogeyman of the day is.
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