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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by qmr »

m00x wrote: post #400
gnfargbl wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unless one considers China and Taiwan to be the same countries The fact that the CCP is relaxed about core Chinese companies running their manufacturing in Taiwan might suggest that the CCP considers that it can make China and Taiwan one country, at a time of the CCP's choosing.

I've lived in Taiwan for a large part of my life. They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. It's not the fact that the CCP thinks that they can make Taiwan and China a country, it's the the fact that most of China does in fact consider them as one country. Taiwan is ready to defend themselves, but are very happy keeping their relationship with China the way it is.

> They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions.

How is that?

Is there an action movie style self destruct sequence?

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by rf15 »

nomendos wrote: post #512

New CPU is 100% ARM design and nothing by Xiaomi other than "Chinese menu" configuration (i.e. how many blocks of this or that type,..). Apple CPU is a full custom design that just complies with ARM. Xiaomi Xring O3 CPU is designed by ARM and Xiaomi (as well as Mediatek) did not do any CPU design, other than custom bus interconnects, physical implementation on TSMC 3nm, an in-house NPU, and adopting next-generation L…

I wonder just how different their processes really are, considering both can be safely described as "full custom design".

I write this especially in the context of apple always being about The Look, so they might also describe their design process in a more optimistical light in advertisement material.

An insider take would be helpful.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by LunaSea »

smallstepforman wrote: post #564
melasadra wrote: post #223

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We surely cant be this naive after the recent history of: - China weaponizing the world's dependence on rare earth - The US weaponizing the world's dependence on SWIFT - Russia weaponizing Europe's dependence on natural gas - Iran weaponizing the the world's dependence of oil supply through strait of Hormuz

Russian are more than happy to sell you NatGas, why do you think they’re weaponising? Watch too much propaganda?

They specifically cut access to said gas pipelines at the beginning of the Ukrainian war.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by ahmed_1000 »

throwaw12 wrote: post #304
apparent wrote: post #235

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When you say "greedy US corporations" do you mean that these US corporations are uniquely greedy, or that all corporations are greedy, and this is bad for the ones in the US? Do you think that corporations in China, which in many cases are subsidized by the government, are also greedy?

all for profit companies are greedy by their nature, but US companies are on a different level because you can 'buy' the government by lobbying or supporting their election campaigns or break the law and eventually make sure law is changed to fit your business (e.g. first taxi medallions adjusted the law for themselves, and then Uber) Same is very difficult to do in China (look what happened to Jack Ma) or in Europe,…

Thinking there's no corruption in China because Jack Ma got sent to a dungeon for being too mouthy is actually comical

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by aucisson_masque »

apparent wrote: post #235
throwaw12 wrote: post #75

I love this, really, competition on a global scale is good for us, bad for greedy US corporations. For example, I consider Meta as bigger threat to society, than Xiaomi, DeepSeek, z.ai and other top Chinese companies (haven't used Chinese social media, so can't comment about its content)

When you say "greedy US corporations" do you mean that these US corporations are uniquely greedy, or that all corporations are greedy, and this is bad for the ones in the US? Do you think that corporations in China, which in many cases are subsidized by the government, are also greedy?

He means monopolistic.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by eru »

gnfargbl wrote: post #353
Brybry wrote: post #210

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Xiaomi's Xring O3 is manufactured by TSMC N3P process in Taiwan. [1] MediaTek Dimensity 9500 is also manufactured by TSMC N3P process in Taiwan. [2] There was no world interdependence change (unless one considers China and Taiwan to be the same countries). [1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-launches-XRing-O3-claim... [2] https://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-Dimensity-9500-Proces...

> unless one considers China and Taiwan to be the same countries The fact that the CCP is relaxed about core Chinese companies running their manufacturing in Taiwan might suggest that the CCP considers that it can make China and Taiwan one country, at a time of the CCP's choosing.

> The fact that the CCP is relaxed about core Chinese companies running their manufacturing in Taiwan might suggest that the CCP considers that it can make China and Taiwan one country, at a time of the CCP's choosing.

I'm not so sure. I would say that perhaps it's an indication that the CCP is ok with the status quo.

The PR Chinese might be able to take Taiwan's land, but they can't conceivable take Taiwan's economy, at least not by force.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by eru »

qmr wrote: post #571
m00x wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've lived in Taiwan for a large part of my life. They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. It's not the fact that the CCP thinks that they can make Taiwan and China a country, it's the the fact that most of China does in fact consider them as one country. Taiwan is ready to defend themselves, but are very happy keeping their relationship with China the way it is.

> They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. How is that? Is there an action movie style self destruct sequence?

A few employees with sledge hammers would be enough. These are rather delicate machines.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by creato »

geysersam wrote: post #386
xanthor wrote: post #322

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China and Vietnam are the only countries worldwide which have executed bankers for corruption in recent decades. No ahem necessary.

It's striking that they recently arrested one of the richest men in the country, the Evergrande founder, for fraud. Seems unthinkable in the US/Europe right now.

Some of Evergrande's financial practices were somewhat ponzi-scheme-ish (new sales funded construction of previous buyers), and the US has imprisoned a few such schemers too.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by oasisaimlessly »

qmr wrote: post #571
m00x wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've lived in Taiwan for a large part of my life. They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. It's not the fact that the CCP thinks that they can make Taiwan and China a country, it's the the fact that most of China does in fact consider them as one country. Taiwan is ready to defend themselves, but are very happy keeping their relationship with China the way it is.

> They would lose all of TSMC if they do any military actions. How is that? Is there an action movie style self destruct sequence?

Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40441650 "TSMC EUV machines equipped with remote self-destruct in case of invasion"

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by wolvesechoes »

t-3 wrote: post #347
palmotea wrote: post #134

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> Sounds like a loser diatribe. Nobody asked your country to do anything with China. Was your government's and corporations choice and yes they had to pay for the privilege of cheap labor and later for advanced manufacturing capacity. No, the GP's comment is an attempt to correct the mistake you were so kind to outline. There's no reason we must stick with the approach set by a previous set of leaders who turned out…

What's short-sighted and naive is believing that globalism can be reversed, that economic efficiency can be overcome by political will, and that knowledge can be contained to one country. More and deeper international economic and political entaglements are inevitable. How can an adversarial relationship with one of the most advanced countries with abundant production and labor capacity help anything? Economic nation…

> What's short-sighted and naive is believing that globalism can be reversed, that economic efficiency can be overcome by political will, and that knowledge can be contained to one country

Peak ideology.

> Economic nationalism and high tech are incompatible

Except in China?

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