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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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peezd wrote: post #274
smallmancontrov wrote: post #228

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China didn't get that way by magic. They ran the same playbook that allowed Alexander Hamilton to snatch manufacturing from Great Britain to the US, and the US gave up manufacturing for the same reason the UK gave up manufacturing (suppression of labor interests). It will be interesting to see what China does. They aren't ideologically committed to exclusively serving the interests of the wealthy, but they still have…

I can't imagine it going any other way than what we've seen from every other country in your set of examples, honestly.

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by chasd00 »

Dah00n wrote: post #284
mschuster91 wrote: post #179

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No. Chinese dumpers undercutting everyone else and destroying the competition is never good.

Was it bad when it was the US doing it against the UK? Or is it only when the people doing it eat more rice than us that it is bad? People said the same thing about the Japanese (they steal designs, they copy, it is bad quality, they are stealing our jobs, and so on).

> Was it bad when it was the US doing it against the UK? Or is it only when the people doing it eat more rice than us that it is bad?

dumping is always bad.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by cpursley »

dirck-norman wrote: post #244
testing22321 wrote: post #207

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The CEO of Ford directly said if Chinese EVs are allowed into the US it will be the end of US auto manufacturing. They know they are inferior, and choose not to compete, just lobby for more regulations to keep competitors out. Free market, haha.

China is nowhere near “free market”. Their EV sector received more government subsidies in the last 15 years than the entire U.S. automobile market since inception. The total subsidies make up half of the market cap of their entire EV industry. 250 billion in EV subsidies from China. 10 billion by the U.S.

Even without the subsidies, at this point, they’re arguably making better cars.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by throwaw12 »

apparent wrote: post #235
throwaw12 wrote: post #75

I love this, really, competition on a global scale is good for us, bad for greedy US corporations. For example, I consider Meta as bigger threat to society, than Xiaomi, DeepSeek, z.ai and other top Chinese companies (haven't used Chinese social media, so can't comment about its content)

When you say "greedy US corporations" do you mean that these US corporations are uniquely greedy, or that all corporations are greedy, and this is bad for the ones in the US? Do you think that corporations in China, which in many cases are subsidized by the government, are also greedy?

all for profit companies are greedy by their nature, but US companies are on a different level because you can 'buy' the government by lobbying or supporting their election campaigns or break the law and eventually make sure law is changed to fit your business (e.g. first taxi medallions adjusted the law for themselves, and then Uber)

Same is very difficult to do in China (look what happened to Jack Ma) or in Europe, because you have to follow some regulations

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by holoduke »

InTheArena wrote: post #288
Dah00n wrote: post #270

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Do you say the same about Intel, Amd, etc. or is it only big bad China?

There's been 40 years of documented push back when western governments try to backdoor things - starting with clipper. Pushback is not always successful - but it's far more transparent then China.

Too many propoganda leads to expressions like yours. Sorry your story has zero foundation and is fox news quality.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by 7734128 »

dirck-norman wrote: post #244
testing22321 wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CEO of Ford directly said if Chinese EVs are allowed into the US it will be the end of US auto manufacturing. They know they are inferior, and choose not to compete, just lobby for more regulations to keep competitors out. Free market, haha.

China is nowhere near “free market”. Their EV sector received more government subsidies in the last 15 years than the entire U.S. automobile market since inception. The total subsidies make up half of the market cap of their entire EV industry. 250 billion in EV subsidies from China. 10 billion by the U.S.

No, it's actually 200 000 trillion for both countries.

Source: same as yours

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by hn_submit »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #265
hn_submit wrote: post #231

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The U.S. is already making moves to completely halt the export of ASML machines to China, including non-EUV ones. Every semiconductor China produces could be used in weapons and that's agains U.S. law.

Last I knew, ASML was a Dutch company with a Veldhoven HQ. With the amount of shit that Trump's been pulling in Europe, The EU might be more willing to side with China and ban exports to the US.

Not as long as there's a NATO.

Europe needs to acquire a nuclear arsenal that stands head-to-head with the Russian one quantitatively and independent from the U.S. or any other nation (including the French and British) for nuclear deterrence. This means many more European nations need to acquire a nuclear arsenal.

The frustrating part is that the U.S. doesn't want to give assurances whether it will come to Europe's aid if it were attacked, but at the same time doesn't want European nations to develop an independent nuclear capability. Many European nations (Poland, Finland, Sweden, Germany) are currently contemplating going nuclear. The U.S. is actively discouraging them to do so.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by fg137 »

otterley wrote: post #59
fg137 wrote: post #52

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Still better than what Qualcomm is offering?

I'm not sure that it matters. You can't put a Qualcomm chip in an iPhone and you can't put Apple Silicon in any other device. So there's no really straightforward way to compare them other than specs on paper, which we all know are theoretical until they get integrated.

Why "better than Qualcomm" doesn't matter? You don't have to compare everything with Apple products.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by [deleted] »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #265
hn_submit wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U.S. is already making moves to completely halt the export of ASML machines to China, including non-EUV ones. Every semiconductor China produces could be used in weapons and that's agains U.S. law.

Last I knew, ASML was a Dutch company with a Veldhoven HQ. With the amount of shit that Trump's been pulling in Europe, The EU might be more willing to side with China and ban exports to the US.

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Post by holoduke »

Dah00n wrote: post #275
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #205

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yet somehow the outcome for the US has been much better. EU wins on paper though, yay!

Sure if you are Bezos or Musk. Otherwise, no.

Gdp grew much faster in the US than in the EU. I believe the EU is the worst performer of the planet. No joke. And not surprising with the self destructive actions.
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