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MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by varispeed »

Terr_ wrote: post #129
weberer wrote: post #24

The AI aspect of this is a red herring. The real problem is that they're secretly adding in a unique identifier into every image you create. If somebody does not like your meme, they can just send a copyright subpoena to Microsoft to instantly get your full name, address, email, phone number, and any other data associated with your Microsoft account. Just like age verification, this is another weapon in the war again…

> a unique identifier into every image you create Printing (even text) is also a risk: It's very likely your printer is secretly adding marks to the page that contain its serial number and the current timestamp. [0] Meanwhile Microsoft (and Apple) have "telemetry" harvesting those serial numbers of all internal and external devices you've ever had connected or reachable. Then they link them to your MS/Apple account,…

and then in few years a new mono-mustachioed or mono-browed leader will emerge who declares memes a blasphemy punishable by death and will call up all the telemetry gathered to punish all involved.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by BeetleB »

Retr0id wrote: post #136
BeetleB wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, but given that GIMP is a general purpose tool, what use is the signature if all of them verify it, when I can drastically change the image to whatever I want it to be?

The manifests at each step can embed a thumbnail (although this is optional, iiuc!), so looking at the thumbnail history it should be obvious that the edit was significant.

Yeah - I totally would not support that!

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by allthetime »

saejox wrote: post #104

These days i cant recommend Windows to anybody. Even gamers should move to linux. Some say "i do nothing illegal" "have nothing to hide". You dont do anything illegal in your point of view. AI tracking you might think otherwise. A sudden knock on your door might happen because of an ambigious search/propmt.

many games work flawlessly on Linux now. enough to make the switch anyways. a lot more than on mac.

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by Yiin »

frig57 wrote: post #145
saejox wrote: post #104

These days i cant recommend Windows to anybody. Even gamers should move to linux. Some say "i do nothing illegal" "have nothing to hide". You dont do anything illegal in your point of view. AI tracking you might think otherwise. A sudden knock on your door might happen because of an ambigious search/propmt.

Anyone got tips or guides to starting a linux OS that protects privacy without sacrificing utility? Considering putting linux on a 2nd PC

omarchy.org

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

b5n wrote: post #157
1970-01-01 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a one-off niche user. Just look for more of these. You will find them. https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1cvwo93/arch_run...

This supports my initial reply. This was an f2fs bug in a bleeding edge kernel released only seven days earlier. The thread suggests perfectly reasonable mitigations, especially for an arch user: use the lts kernel or downgrade to 6.8.9. If you're not familiar with linux and/or don't want to deal with trivial issues periodically, don't hang out at the bleeding edge. There are plenty of boring and/or beginner friendly…

Ok fair point, here's plenty more of the same on stable. My point is Linux is always fine right until it isn't. Then you're back to a day of debugging your update.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218770

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-f2fs-devel/20240409203411.1885...

https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2511.2/07280.html

https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2511.2/07260.html

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1226043

https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/bugs@lists.opensuse...

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/15478...

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/63175

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by imnotr0b0t »

Interesting find. Overall it makes sense from a deepfake-fighting perspective and EU requirements. But what's concerning is that users aren't really told about this, as far as I can tell. Would be cool if someone checked if it can be bypassed, like swapping the DLL or intercepting the API call. But yeah, it's another step toward every digital trace becoming personally identifiable...

Re: MS Paint and Photos inivisibly watermark even locally generated output with GUID

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Post by hiccuphippo »

weberer wrote: post #24

The AI aspect of this is a red herring. The real problem is that they're secretly adding in a unique identifier into every image you create. If somebody does not like your meme, they can just send a copyright subpoena to Microsoft to instantly get your full name, address, email, phone number, and any other data associated with your Microsoft account. Just like age verification, this is another weapon in the war again…

Can this also be weaponized? Get an innocuous image from someone you don't like, grab their GUID, add it to another image, sent it to the thin skinned politician in power.
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