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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Sad thing is that it'll still be running the damn Android and so JVM not C or Swift on the machine.

What a weird, unhinged take. Android is mostly written in C, Android apps are AOT/JIT compiled when written in Java, and the NDK lets you write/port from whatever native you have, which is how you get Chrome to run on it to begin with.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Supply chain advantages make the country that produces most of the stuff progressively better at doing everything.

Only if you have the people to do it. China has some of the worst birth rate in the world. In ~20 years that manufacturing capacity either goes to robots or goes away. Then what?

how is that different from the rest of the world?

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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There are already American backdoors on intel and AMD chips everywhere, we call them ME and PSP. Switching to chinese tech won't make it worse. Now, if the EU would start make to make chips that have no subsystem to screw me over, that would be something.

> Now, if the EU would start make to make chips that have no subsystem to screw me over, that would be something. Why would they not do the same? They are very pro-surveillance for a start.

Hopefully the same pushback that has so far stopped the worst of chat control would help. But even if not having more western alternatives would be very welcome. If you're in the US it may not resonate with you, but as a Canadian currently reading ongoing rhetoric about being annexed by the US I'd love to have options if things continue to go south with the status quo.

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I think Western people still call this situation “outsourcing” when in reality what is happening is that China is better at manufacturing than everyone else, and they’re starting to be better than everyone else at design and engineering, too. When we buy software from Silicon Valley or a nice Mercedes Benz from Germany we don’t use this same language “outsourcing.” Colloquially, outsourcing implies low quality or che…

Well at this point they are probably the only country in the world that can produce a car end to end starting from the raw iron ore and other elements up to the chips and software that runs on them (I’m sure they will still need to import some small stuff probably like Rhodium or Iridium maybe), who is going to compete with that? Everything done in country, no tariffs at all throughout the entire production cycle. Th…

> China that still seems acceptable

China has made a tremendous effort to move to a clean(er) industrial system, using a lot of renewables and clean energy and improving environmental standards. At this point production in China is probably the best for the environment compared to most countries, including the US that is deeply invested in oil production.

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I'm unaware of any actual hardware backdoors introduced by primary manufacturers in practice, especially those installed in Xiaomi hardware. There are accounts of interdiction and post-manufacturing compromises, such as those revealed in the Snowden leaks (2013) and most recently by reporting about the Israeli security services' sabotage of Hezbollah pagers and 2-way radios. These projects didn't expose primary manuf…

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You can refute their statement without personal attacks.

Not knowing a thing makes someone uninformed, not retarded.

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The CEO of Ford directly said if Chinese EVs are allowed into the US it will be the end of US auto manufacturing. They know they are inferior, and choose not to compete, just lobby for more regulations to keep competitors out. Free market, haha.

China is nowhere near “free market”. Their EV sector received more government subsidies in the last 15 years than the entire U.S. automobile market since inception. The total subsidies make up half of the market cap of their entire EV industry. 250 billion in EV subsidies from China. 10 billion by the U.S.

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Yeah, well, I'm still waiting for 1 Apple Car ...

Why are you waiting for something that was never announced?

You never heard of project Titan? It even has a wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_car_project

"around 5,000 employees were reported to be working on the project as of 2018."

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Lol, no. This is so stupid. China itself uses the "dominate and corral" model for their industries, and had severe tariffs to grow their various industrial bases, such as automotive.

Same is true of US, Germany, Britain, etc

The US had open markets and low tariffs for a long time; China's automotive tariffs were amongst the strongest in the entire world.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Lol, no. This is so stupid. China itself uses the "dominate and corral" model for their industries, and had severe tariffs to grow their various industrial bases, such as automotive.

From the outside, it is still competition. If they go too far to impose their system, we stop buying :)

Except they've now ground your native industry under their boot and have total monopoly control because you've given up your critical infrastructure. You can no longer stop buying. That isn't an option.

This is geopolitics 101; your fantasy version is decades out of date.

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