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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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It is the same Xiaomi which announced 300 000 SU7 vehicles sold in a day and 6 months later reported they are struggling to hit their sales targets? Just don’t believe anything a Chinese company say, divide it by at least 2. I have nothing against China, this is a cultural thing which you should be aware reading anything coming from the country.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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It is the same Xiaomi which announced 300 000 SU7 vehicles sold in a day and 6 months later reported they are struggling to hit their sales targets? Just don’t believe anything a Chinese company say, divide it by at least 2. I have nothing against China, this is a cultural thing which you should be aware reading anything coming from the country.

Yeah, well, I'm still waiting for 1 Apple Car ...

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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If Moore's law is truly ending as is generally believed, then it seems logically inevitable that the entire industry will flatten out and equalize. Or, I am oversimplifying something.

In this case it's more that multiple companies (Apple, Qualcomm, MediaTek and now Xiaomi) have used the same process (N3P) to produce multiple chips with similar performance. Regardless of Moore's Law death that isn't surprising.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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> This is bad news for Mediatek and Qualcomm. And good news for everyone else.

Lol, no. This is so stupid. China itself uses the "dominate and corral" model for their industries, and had severe tariffs to grow their various industrial bases, such as automotive.

From the outside, it is still competition.

If they go too far to impose their system, we stop buying :)

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MediaTek is a Taiwanese company. Xiaomi could put any backdoor that the government tell them to install and TSMC won't be able to catch that.

I'm unaware of any actual hardware backdoors introduced by primary manufacturers in practice, especially those installed in Xiaomi hardware. There are accounts of interdiction and post-manufacturing compromises, such as those revealed in the Snowden leaks (2013) and most recently by reporting about the Israeli security services' sabotage of Hezbollah pagers and 2-way radios. These projects didn't expose primary manuf…

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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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There's been 40 years of documented push back when western governments try to backdoor things - starting with clipper. Pushback is not always successful - but it's far more transparent then China.

Are there any documented cases of backdoors being present in Chinese hardware at time of manufacturing?

Two just this year, CVE-2026-66747 and CVE-2026-11405.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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There's been 40 years of documented push back when western governments try to backdoor things - starting with clipper. Pushback is not always successful - but it's far more transparent then China.

Are there any documented cases of backdoors being present in Chinese hardware at time of manufacturing?

Probably, but you are asking the wrong question: Is it legal to produce non-backdoored networked devices or services in China?

The answer to that question in the US is within epsilon of “no” thanks to the cloud act.

Europe and China have passed similar laws. However, China has a reputation for passing laws then selectively enforcing them. Maybe if you get on the right side of the right party member, the answer might still be “Yes” there.

Anyway, the next question to ask is: Who would I rather backdoor my device?

I doubt the Chinese government cares much about me, and unless I vacation there it’s an international incident if they, say, hack my car and murder me by aiming it at a tree at 95mph, like the CIA apparently does now:

https://www.motor1.com/news/138679/wikileaks-claim-cia-hack-...

Of course, the US government banned cars from China. Presumably this is because they do not have the mandated remote murder network port open, or, if they do, the US doesn’t have the necessary permissions to access it.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Yes and no. Having more competition in the space is excellent news. However I am sad that the world interdependence is eroding as most other countries seem to sit on their hands and happily outsource every bit of manufacturing to a single country.

Countries and institutions should always produce things where they are excellent at producing, in forms of specialization and compete in terms of comparative advantages.

Families should always eat at the restaurants that produce the most excellent cuisine. /s
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