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Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by vkaku »

_joel wrote: post #131
vkaku wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running Non Profit and managing infrastructure for pennies, is a real problem these non profits / small companies face. If a multi trillion dollar company won't afford to burn a few million a month, good luck getting any of these folks to buy and host their Sharepoint for cheap. This is not just a technical problem, and you know it. These people need real solutions, and asking for them to have an IT department isn't…

The solution isn't telling them to use a linux desktop.

It actually is. Don't concentrate compute and data risks in a few vendors centralized who currently don't do a good job of hosting them nor saving them well.

It obviously costs money to run cloud storage and compute, do use whatever is available at hand first.

Microsoft is forcing people to use OneDrive on Windows and Office 365 by default, not realizing that it doesn't want to pay for dealing with all of this.

The centralized model is already failing, these providers are storing data they can't decide about and people are being forced to pay for features they don't need to use at all. None of these things help your case.

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Post by inigyou »

pschastain wrote: post #80
Grimblewald wrote: post #60

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producing an os with a focus on utility to end user would be a start. Even just something that makes some form of effort to give users a return on investment on their hardware. Right now, you unluck massive headroom, battery life, and stability, on a laptop by simple putting linux on it. All that despite windows enjoying better all around driver support from manufacturers. A serious company would never have allowed i…

MS's core product is and always has been Office, specifically Excel. Windows is simply the delivery method

Microsoft doesn't sell any product called Office.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by inigyou »

geocar wrote: post #110
fwipsy wrote: post #90

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What about Azure? Looks like it takes more revenue than Windows and Office put together.

Does it now. Azure's cost of revenue is someplace between 14% (Productivity and Business Processes) and 36% (Intelligent Cloud). Software is 1%. Looks to me like Software pays for the whole thing.

You can't know that based on only cost of revenue percentage.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by inigyou »

somenameforme wrote: post #78
tlogan wrote: post #69

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Selling backup for data that is stored in the cloud (whether selling solution as a provider or selling any solution (even free one) internally to your team), is one of the hardest things in the world.

I'd have to imagine that naivete is broadly declining at a quite sharp rate. Perhaps the greatest broad accomplishment of the powers that be.

Not among corporations and governments, who are Microsoft's target audience. They have an extreme BAU bias.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by inigyou »

rvba wrote: post #120
Gys wrote: post #6

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As long as the legal department is very serious, that might work rather well.

Until nobody uses your products anymore. Just like you know to never use anything from Google apart from ads (since everything else can get cancelled next month)

They don't care about end users. Like Oracle, they care about corporate and government contracts.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by inigyou »

dgellow wrote: post #39
sixtyj wrote: post #3

Cloud is nice if it works. Web hosting is nice if you pay for it. In history timeline, future archaeologists will probably see almost nothing, some books… as we are used to past centuries. But clouds, servers… gone. BTW don’t use SSD for archiving.

As a society we actually generate a lots of books. Future generations wouldn’t be missing too much without the internet I think. Also, not everything is worth preserving. Easily 90% of Reddit is complete garbage

That was in 2018. I'd upgrade it now to 99.99%.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by inigyou »

rvba wrote: post #122
rectang wrote: post #105

Why not start with a brownout? Make the data temporarily inaccessible, but don’t actually delete it immediately.

Satya has to go. It feels he is there to keep costs low, not to do things correctly. One of the first moves was to get rid of QA

In the current business environment, keeping costs low is the correct way to do things, and quality is completely irrelevant.

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Post by geocar »

inigyou wrote: post #143
geocar wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it now. Azure's cost of revenue is someplace between 14% (Productivity and Business Processes) and 36% (Intelligent Cloud). Software is 1%. Looks to me like Software pays for the whole thing.

You can't know that based on only cost of revenue percentage.

We also have revenue. They're a public company.

You can look all this stuff up yourself.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Post by fingerlocks »

WalterBright wrote: post #54

I abandoned Microsoft Outlook Express many years ago after discovering that it kept the files in hidden directories, and were in some scrambled, undocumented format. There was no backup mechanism for it. I replaced it with Thunderbird Mail.

Good news! New outlook stores each email in a separate tarball of html. Bad news for your hard drive though
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