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Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Again, you're clearly showing you know nothing about running actual IT for actual companies.

Oh Boo Hoo. IT departments for Non Profits that aren't actually like OpenAI. Right.

Yes, I'm a CTO for one.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #69

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It's what happens when you don't have a backup strategy. Even paper works as a backup.

Selling backup for data that is stored in the cloud (whether selling solution as a provider or selling any solution (even free one) internally to your team), is one of the hardest things in the world.

Just got a little easier I imagine.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Yep, this is the sort of thing happens when you've deeply internalized that trustworthiness and continuity is not important. Microsoft today is not a serious company, it is not run by serious people, and it is at the forefront of a deeply unserious industry.

What does "serious" mean in this context?

Not the person you’re responding to, but I’d say serious here means committed to delivering value for customers, willing to take lower profits in the short term to be steadfast and reliable, deeply introspective about process (with transparent communication).

Just, you know, taking business seriously. Like they did even 6 or 8 years ago.

The core business now is execs ego-stroking each other and hoping disaster strikes after they cash out.

When Satya came in there was a dramatic shift in culture, and things were improving. I won’t argue they were super-serious, but at least getting better, and focusing on the business rather than the internal strife that Balmer loved to much.

But now… just the opposite. This IS a deeply unserious business. The tech bros got the keys to the combine and have no idea WTF to do, so it’s all cosplay.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Microsoft is serious because the world is full of people with needs who do not know better and Microsoft is still the default to serve those needs. Something does not have to be useful, benign, consistent, worthwhile, or deserving to exist in order to be serious. For example: Losing an arm and an eye to a fireworks accident, being grievously assaulted in an alley, or having Microsoft arbitrarily delete all your data,…

No. Just because an entity is able to do things with serious consequences, does not mean they are a serious entity. For other examples, see school shooters in the US.

Drink drivers and other reckless endangerment as well.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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According to https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/commerce/sub... the data should not be deleted for 90 days after license expiration - what am I missing?

The massive disconnect between “should” and “how the systems really work” that even people at Microsoft don’t know.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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According to https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/commerce/sub... the data should not be deleted for 90 days after license expiration - what am I missing?

> This article applies to all Microsoft 365 for business subscriptions

I suspect the nonprofit arrangement is not an example of a "Microsoft 365 for business subscription"

Although the old nonprofit FAQ calls it, "the Microsoft 365 Business Premium nonprofit offer" https://web.archive.org/web/20260223193546/https://www.micro...

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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People are better off using LibreOffice on a Linux desktop

Statements like this immediately reveal that the commenter has never once seen a real live corporate IT department

I was a Financial Analyst at Amazon and Starbucks for about 15 years total. Excel was my favorite tool. I used to say that if my employer would not pay for Excel I would pay for it out of me own money.

Almost 20 years later in 2026 I migrated all my personal stuff to Linux and Libre Office. I am amazed how much better this is than the Windows + Office setup my wife uses.

Just today I helped my wife with an Excel file. I can’t believe what garbage Excel is in 2026. For reference- I tried to use the Formula -> Show Dependent Cells feature. This feature showed NO dependent cells - even though these were in the row below. What a piece of garbage Excel became.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's what happens when you don't have a backup strategy. Even paper works as a backup.

Selling backup for data that is stored in the cloud (whether selling solution as a provider or selling any solution (even free one) internally to your team), is one of the hardest things in the world.

I'd have to imagine that naivete is broadly declining at a quite sharp rate. Perhaps the greatest broad accomplishment of the powers that be.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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As a daily Linux user and enthusiast, I detest statements like this. You did not read the article not the problem that those companies have and your only solution is "Use LibreOffice" without any actual interest in what their problem is or what an actual solution to their problems is. People like you push newbies away from Linux. Using LibreOffice does not give you web sharing, nor permission systems, nor automation…

Also, libreoffice is just unequivocally worse than MS Office - it is actively painful to use their spreadsheet, for example.

What features, besides macros which I haven;t used, are you finding worse in Libre Office than in MS Office?

I am using Libre Office for me household budget, and keeping track of cooking recipes. It is much better than MS Office because:

1. In Libre I can tell at a glance what my active cell is;

2. On my wife’s laptop at least, Office installed a DRM service that basically makes impossible to work on personal files on her work computer.

3. MS office insists each time I save a file to put it on OneDrive. Then I have to clock around to find the local folder and eventually save it locally. Libre just saves it locally from the first try,

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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What does "serious" mean in this context?

producing an os with a focus on utility to end user would be a start. Even just something that makes some form of effort to give users a return on investment on their hardware. Right now, you unluck massive headroom, battery life, and stability, on a laptop by simple putting linux on it. All that despite windows enjoying better all around driver support from manufacturers. A serious company would never have allowed i…

MS's core product is and always has been Office, specifically Excel. Windows is simply the delivery method
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