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A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by shostack »

qurren wrote: post #197
217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

Any opinions (by anyone really) on how much I can trust Claude vs. Codex (vs. something else) to not leak my coding conversations or use them for training? I have the appropriate privacy settings set up but wondering how much I can trust each company with them.

For individual use without specially negotiated Enterprise stuff I can't afford both offer contractual assurances of not using your data for training or ads and measurement and selling your data.

But these are not the same level of technical assurance you get from say, a zero data retention provider on OpenRouter.

Right now I am finding I have to tolerate substantial friction to use Hermes for personal stuff with a ZDR provider and ChatGPT and Codex for less personal stuff because the products and models are simply so much better.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by tene80i »

timr wrote: post #150
tene80i wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “I realize that there’s a population of people who just refuse to use anything associated with Musk because politics have eaten our brains” People have values. Many people strongly disapprove of Musk’s actions. Many don’t - fine! Personal choice. But for people who do, refusing to support him commercially is hardly brain-eaten territory. There’s plenty of competition, and competition isn’t the only value at play.

Yeah, OK. You’re making excuses for letting politics eat your life. Enjoy yourself, I guess. Setting aside the actual legitimacy of whatever complaints you have about Musk, you aren’t “supporting” him by using Grok, any more than you’re “supporting Xi Jinping” by using DeepSeek, or “supporting Jeff Bezos” by using Amazon, or “supporting the CEO of Exxon” by using energy. Or “supporting” any of a million other people…

I imagine we’re not as far apart as you might think.

Leave Musk to one side for a second. Is there no one, even hypothetically, whose actions would make you turn away from their company’s products and services? Even if it has no effect on the overall viability of their business? A local restaurant where you know the owner is a bully to his staff? A tradesman who was unbelievably rude to your friend? A newspaper whose owner personally made sure they trashed the reputation of your business? A wedding photographer who proudly refuses to work for couples who had children out of wedlock?

Surely your devotion to the principle of competition doesn’t override all your other beliefs?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by aabdi »

joddystreet wrote: post #244
joddystreet wrote: post #216

I have completely moved away from Claude to Codex. OpenAI models are better at following instructions and skill use. Claude generates more code, tries to build things that are not planned or needed, repeats same mistakes over and over. Chatgpt on the other hand just does enough, within a project would not repeat the same mistakes, tries to guess your workflow, so you don’t have to ask it to run the same. If you need…

One more observation - Claude is better at delegation than Codex. Chatgpt is a better planner. Have a discussion in Chatgpt, have Claude to plan work chunks and have GLM to deliver, Codex to review and fix, delivers an overall a better version. Problem - It’s just too much of a context switching. Solution - I am thinking about a new product, a collaborative workspace where I can run this workflow.

lol i do this too, but i just use my own orchestrator. recommend building one yourself, think its better that way. there's quite a few on github,

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by dbbk »

I find myself in an awkward tug of war between Claude and Codex. Claude is the buggiest product, always breaking in bizarre and aggravating ways. Codex is much more polished, especially on mobile.

However the main thing that's prevented me from adopting Codex full time is its poor implementation of plan mode. While Claude persists it to disk and re-reads it in full on compaction, Codex's just lives in context, so it basically immediately gets destroyed when compacted - which happens a lot, given Codex doesn't default to 1M context window.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by applicative »

217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

I don't think 'enterprise' is quite ready for

> kimi k3 - one of the few models thats willing to commit crimes for you

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by dbbk »

joddystreet wrote: post #216

I have completely moved away from Claude to Codex. OpenAI models are better at following instructions and skill use. Claude generates more code, tries to build things that are not planned or needed, repeats same mistakes over and over. Chatgpt on the other hand just does enough, within a project would not repeat the same mistakes, tries to guess your workflow, so you don’t have to ask it to run the same. If you need…

"tries to build things that are not planned or needed" I literally never experience this when using plan mode upfront

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by thefourthchime »

alasdair_ wrote: post #131
trjordan wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not mentioning Grok 4.6 here is a crime. Fast and accurate. And it can communicate, unlike the gobbledygook that comes out of Claude.

Elon burned too many bridges to warrant ever supporting anything he is associated with ever again.

Just when I think this place is better than Reddit, here we are.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by eulo__ »

oblio wrote: post #240
zarzavat wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be causing a lot of cache misses. You have to use the caching efficiently otherwise you can burn up any plan in any amount of time.

How do you use the cache efficiently?

I’m currently running /compact “explain the core next step” whenever over 20% context.

Also doing /clear with a md file handover if I think the next input is diverse enough from the previous work.

You get a lot more out of it.

Not sure if this is best practice though.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by thefourthchime »

datakan wrote: post #260
timr wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, your argument is that his grandfather wrote something, once, so therefore we can't use Grok? Is that about right? Man, politics are a hell of a drug. Guilt-by-association tu quoque logic is just fine when it's someone you don't like.

Absolutely no point arguing with these people. They are so ideologically captured that it's pointless trying to discuss anything with them. Just move on. Everything and everyone they disagree with is "nazi" and if you say anything contrary to that you're a "nazi" also.

Is Godwins law now Elons law?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by thefourthchime »

alasdair_ wrote: post #131
trjordan wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not mentioning Grok 4.6 here is a crime. Fast and accurate. And it can communicate, unlike the gobbledygook that comes out of Claude.

Elon burned too many bridges to warrant ever supporting anything he is associated with ever again.

Do you know the political leanings of every CEO of every product you buy?
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