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A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Go ahead and explain why you decided to use “quantum” and “liquidate” then bro

Fluency in one's native language, what an achievement. Neither of these words are complicated. The treasury is unsalable bonds according to the thread, which means the US is in a financial collapse, but also has unlimited capacity to support someone's special interests abroad. Master logicians at work here.

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Sure, you can let politics dominate everything you do. Or you can realize that SpaceX is a massive (public) company with thousands of employees, and millions of shareholders, all of whom have their own opinions and goals, just like any other corporation. Competition is good. Excluding a leading player in the market because you don’t like Elon Musk is…something.

Bizarre reply. It's not "dominating everything you do". It's one specific thing. Grok exists in a very crowded space and it's incredibly easy to not use it. If this is your reaction to someone taking a very easy stand on their personal principles, it does not reflect well on you.

"Bizarre" only in the sense that you're purposely trying not to understand.

Literally every commodity product is in a crowded space, and easily substituted. If it's a good product (Grok Build objectively is one of the very best in the space), it's a good product, and it's self-defeating to avoid it because you hate a guy for political reasons.

Just as it would be nonsensical to avoid shopping at WalMart, Target, or any of a million other places. Because I guarantee they're all associated with people you won't like.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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> yet we're talking about alternative services that are all very similar. Yes, that's what "commodity" means, and why I used the word. > There are other reasons to not use Elon Musk's AI beyond politics, though this month he's investing $200 million to sway the Texas midterms back to an awful politician, far closer to home than what Xi Jinping might be doing. It's amusing that you can't even help yourself from mentio…

You put more heart and emotion into your comments here than I spent picking a non-Grok AI service.

> I noticed you glossed over Elon getting caught biasing his AI service to say he's the best blowjob-giver, the main reason I would never use Grok.

I "glossed over" all of your political comments.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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> I realize that there’s a population of people who just refuse to use anything associated with Musk because politics have eaten our brains Everyone has their own frameworks for risk assessments, its more of the historical incidents associated with it than politics

I mean, sure. If people tell me that they're avoiding Grok because of that bug, I sorta get it. I think it's silly (again: they're all hoovering up my data), but at least it's a rational basis related to the actual product.

But let's be real: Musk exists as a polarizing political character, and his association with Grok just breaks some people's brains. A fair number of those people don't want to admit it, and just latch on to any rationalization other than politics.

Anthropic could make the same mistake tomorrow, and I guarantee that we wouldn't be hearing about it in a week, let alone months from now.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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I have to agree with you there. I did some good work with Claude then Fable came out - impressed with that as well. Then they dropped access to it and upon returning was never the same - even the Opus models for some reason. Then one day I burned through my limit in about 10 minutes and had to get a project completed. I subscribed to Codex and it has been fantastic - finished my project and continued on to others. I…

I don’t get Claude, and that’s almost exactly what I did - I dropped to Claude Pro $20 + Codex Pro $100, and then unsubscribed from Claude and ramped up Codex. The Claude Pro is consumed within an hour on a simple task. I wish only Codex worked a bit faster than on the Fast mode. I used to rely on Fable for research when it was first out, today it doesn’t seem to be much better than Opus, and it uses up the quota exc…

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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post #138

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Sure, you can let politics dominate everything you do. Or you can realize that SpaceX is a massive (public) company with thousands of employees, and millions of shareholders, all of whom have their own opinions and goals, just like any other corporation. Competition is good. Excluding a leading player in the market because you don’t like Elon Musk is…something.

I’m more than happy to let SpaceX burn out over the next few years now that they’re public and their last quarter financials showed the emperor is without clothes (muh space datacenters).

Because ULA and the senate launch system is better?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

I don’t get how Claude is considered providing “unlimited” quotas. I use up my 5h on Max $100 and Team Premium in 2-3h of relaxed use of Opus 5 high+ on fresh sessions with just a couple skills/plugins. And my weekly quotas are gone in 3 days of such relaxed use. With Codex my $100 weekly quota is used up within 3 days with Sol high+ too. Im not convinced to pay $200 for Claude’s models. With Claude, I have to interv…

You may be causing a lot of cache misses. You have to use the caching efficiently otherwise you can burn up any plan in any amount of time.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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I did the same this week. The speed is the first big contrast; I have a routine multi-step skill that I run several of per week. Opus 5 was routinely taking 2 hours to do it, while older Claude models took around 20 mins; Codex restored that speed. Second is legibility. Somebody wrote in one of the related discussions yesterday that Claude's current linguistic contortions could legitimately be considered damaging to…

I don’t know what’s wrong with Opus 5. I’ve been using Code since November 2025 and Opus 5 is the first blatant regression I’ve seen. Like you said, it just goes off into an endless loop doing random busy-work type of stuff. That’s the best way I can describe it. It’s doing stuff, but it seems mostly like busy-work to me. I’m not saying the model is “dumb” it’s most certainly capable, its vision is better than 4.8 but however they post-trained it is a fuckup.

Also whole heartedly agree with the Opus 5 output being incomprehensible. It’s written in a way that I’d call spaghetti-tech-English. You can unravel it but it’s painful. Fables explanations is effortless and smooth. Opus 5 is user hostile.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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> Changes created by Codex had fewer comments in Ruby/Ruby on Rails code. I liked that a lot, and I will soon share some experiments I ran on this. Why is fewer comments a good thing?

I found that Claude would litter the codebase with what felt like notes-to-self. Sometimes it would make an abstraction that wasn't very well thought out and when I pushed back on this choice, it would usually go with something more along the lines of what I suggested in my pushback, but left a comment like "use the git CLI instead of re-implementing git" or something. It felt like it was commenting on the diff somet…

Yes, it feels like Claude is using code comments as a message board.
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