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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by somenameforme »

sandeepkd wrote: post #167
timr wrote: post #135

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> I realize that there’s a population of people who just refuse to use anything associated with Musk because politics have eaten our brains Everyone has their own frameworks for risk assessments, its more of the historical incidents associated with it than politics

I think this is rationalization given that the entire LLM industry was precipitated by companies engage in wholesale misuse and abuse of copyrighted information for their own enrichment. The obvious concern about LLMs is now the companies engaging in misuse and abuse of copyrighted information (yours in particular) for their own enrichment. But now we are left to convince ourselves that they'd never do anything like that.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by slopinthebag »

felixgallo wrote: post #147
slopinthebag wrote: post #145

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It costs roughly $3,000 to $5,000 to save a single life (averaging about 0.0002 to 0.0003 lives per dollar) via interventions like malaria prevention or vitamin supplementation. How much money do you have in savings? How much money do you spend on non-essentials? I’d like to calculate how many people you’ve “murdered”.

So we as a country have, for many decades, decided that things like 'soft power' exist. It turns out, and this has been borne out by many years of relative peace and prosperity, that if you don't shit on the world, alienate your neighbors, start ill-advised wars, and instead help prevent global disease pandemics and feed people so that they don't become destabilizing terrorists out of necessity, benefits accrue. See…

That is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Serious question, how many people, by your own standards, have you had killed because you haven't contributed money that you had the capacity for? Why should we hold you at a lesser standard than anyone else?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by leptons »

timr wrote: post #150
tene80i wrote: post #148

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> “I realize that there’s a population of people who just refuse to use anything associated with Musk because politics have eaten our brains” People have values. Many people strongly disapprove of Musk’s actions. Many don’t - fine! Personal choice. But for people who do, refusing to support him commercially is hardly brain-eaten territory. There’s plenty of competition, and competition isn’t the only value at play.

Yeah, OK. You’re making excuses for letting politics eat your life. Enjoy yourself, I guess. Setting aside the actual legitimacy of whatever complaints you have about Musk, you aren’t “supporting” him by using Grok, any more than you’re “supporting Xi Jinping” by using DeepSeek, or “supporting Jeff Bezos” by using Amazon, or “supporting the CEO of Exxon” by using energy. Or “supporting” any of a million other people…

Thanks for reminding us what it looks like to lack a moral compass.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by [deleted] »

leptons wrote: post #173
timr wrote: post #150

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Yeah, OK. You’re making excuses for letting politics eat your life. Enjoy yourself, I guess. Setting aside the actual legitimacy of whatever complaints you have about Musk, you aren’t “supporting” him by using Grok, any more than you’re “supporting Xi Jinping” by using DeepSeek, or “supporting Jeff Bezos” by using Amazon, or “supporting the CEO of Exxon” by using energy. Or “supporting” any of a million other people…

Thanks for reminding us what it looks like to lack a moral compass.

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by jimmaswell »

Aurornis wrote: post #155
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #153

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> you get lots of usage on any plan. I hit my weekly limit on $200/mo Codex plan in about ~2 days. :/ I'm not doing anything custom/crazy/special. A lot of 5.6 Sol Ultra though, I'll give you that.

> I'm not doing anything custom/crazy/special. A lot of 5.6 Sol Ultra though If you're not doing anything special there is no reason to use the Ultra mode. Ultra mode is for applying the maximum amount of tokens to a problem without regard to conserving any quota.

Max and Ultra are fantastic for the more complex problems where they shine. I use them strategically on certain classes of problems, one or the other depending how parallelizable it is.

I've found it consistently amazing at game dev. It sounds like something that would be difficult for an LLM to verify and iterate on properly, but it almost feels like having a mini-Carmack inside your computer once you try it out. You can throw it at broad, sweeping optimization passes, writing 5 different styles of eyesight sensor frameworks to see what works best in the game as it is, visual scripting integration problems/extensions, etc. with fantastic results.

Also found Ultra great for "get this local LLM working as fast as possible on this odd server setup with old GPUs and AMX support, writing custom kernels/modifications to llama.cpp/sglang/etc as you go while taking notes from relevant research papers and online posts"

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by apsurd »

timr wrote: post #169
phist_mcgee wrote: post #162

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You're forgetting the part where he is a near majority shareholder in spacex, so half of the profit made on your dollar spend winds up benefiting him personally.

> so half of the profit made on your dollar spend winds up benefiting him personally No, it doesn't. Aside from the face-slappingly obvious fact that SpaceX is losing a half a billion dollars a quarter, that's not how corporate revenue works. Unless the corporate profits are paid out in dividends, you don't just get to hoover them up as a shareholder.

akshully it does work like that. it sounds like you’re arm-chairing macro economics so ill try my hand too.

No one said anything about dollar-in revenue dollar-out dividend. only you.

if i have vested interest in a company and that company’s value is perceived to increase then i get to leverage that value into economic power. yes

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by hombre_fatal »

timr wrote: post #170
hombre_fatal wrote: post #165

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You say it's "letting politics eat your life" yet we're talking about alternative services that are all very similar. Clicking a different website's checkout button is to consciously decide who benefits from your decisions. I think that's how you should live -- pick the oat milk too. There are other reasons to not use Elon Musk's AI beyond politics, though this month he's investing $200 million to sway the Texas midt…

> yet we're talking about alternative services that are all very similar. Yes, that's what "commodity" means, and why I used the word. > There are other reasons to not use Elon Musk's AI beyond politics, though this month he's investing $200 million to sway the Texas midterms back to an awful politician, far closer to home than what Xi Jinping might be doing. It's amusing that you can't even help yourself from mentio…

You put more heart and emotion into your comments here than I spent picking a non-Grok AI service.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by vardalab »

c0rruptbytes wrote: post #117
217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

Pi by itself is more than capable, OMP is okay but you really don't need much for a great harness (these models are RL trained to hell to be a coding agent, sometimes less is more) I run a lot of SlopCodeBench - https://github.com/michaelasper/benchmarks Fable/Sol/GLM 5.3/Kimi are its league (in that order) Deepseek/Opus is solid Qwen 27B is the floor - there's no reason to use Sonnet/Terra/Haiku For everyday activit…

Using Sol XHigh or even High will deplete the Pro sub pretty fast in my experience if one is running any sort of automations in their harnesses. Sol-medium lets me squeek by with it using lesser subagents. Using ninfer on 5090 and 35BA3B qwen 3.6 is also kind of cool to get a local cerebras experience at 600 tk/, it does make errors so 27B is actually faster at the end at 140-150 tk/s. 35B is great though at digging through session logs and such at high speed.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by sdthjbvuiiijbb »

timr wrote: post #138
alasdair_ wrote: post #131

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Elon burned too many bridges to warrant ever supporting anything he is associated with ever again.

Sure, you can let politics dominate everything you do. Or you can realize that SpaceX is a massive (public) company with thousands of employees, and millions of shareholders, all of whom have their own opinions and goals, just like any other corporation. Competition is good. Excluding a leading player in the market because you don’t like Elon Musk is…something.

Bizarre reply. It's not "dominating everything you do". It's one specific thing. Grok exists in a very crowded space and it's incredibly easy to not use it. If this is your reaction to someone taking a very easy stand on their personal principles, it does not reflect well on you.
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