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A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by yoz-y »

I use Claude, codex and antigravity pretty much interchangeably.

For iOS I used Gemini 3.7 flash to build almost everything with good success, but had to reach for Opus to fix a rather tricky audio engine problem (missing function annotation moved audio to the main actor).

Reached for codex after google banned accessing Gemini from OVH servers for some reason.

I’m sure there are edge cases but for your daily vibe coding or “make my printer work with the Tailscale instance running here” business I think they’re all fine.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by com2kid »

timr wrote: post #182
sdthjbvuiiijbb wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bizarre reply. It's not "dominating everything you do". It's one specific thing. Grok exists in a very crowded space and it's incredibly easy to not use it. If this is your reaction to someone taking a very easy stand on their personal principles, it does not reflect well on you.

"Bizarre" only in the sense that you're purposely trying not to understand. Literally every commodity product is in a crowded space, and easily substituted. If it's a good product (Grok Build objectively is one of the very best in the space), it's a good product, and it's self-defeating to avoid it because you hate a guy for political reasons. Just as it would be nonsensical to avoid shopping at WalMart, Target, or a…

> Just as it would be nonsensical to avoid shopping at WalMart, Target, or any of a million other places. Because I guarantee they're all associated with people you won't like.

In a capitalist society voting with your wallet is one of the few powers consumers have to change corporate behavior.

Why would I give that up?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by ValentineC »

c0rruptbytes wrote: post #117
217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

Pi by itself is more than capable, OMP is okay but you really don't need much for a great harness (these models are RL trained to hell to be a coding agent, sometimes less is more) I run a lot of SlopCodeBench - https://github.com/michaelasper/benchmarks Fable/Sol/GLM 5.3/Kimi are its league (in that order) Deepseek/Opus is solid Qwen 27B is the floor - there's no reason to use Sonnet/Terra/Haiku For everyday activit…

I'm sad that Opus is now considered "solid" and not on par with Sol, since OpenAI supposedly has "Astra" which I thought would be comparable to Fable.

It was "amazing" back when I first tried 4.6, but that's just my rose-coloured glasses speaking, I guess. I think I was one of the first few to call out Opus 5 for being hot garbage.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by KronisLV »

Ohh this comes in a really good time!

I mean personally I'd just like to use OpenCode with all the providers, if their desktop app was a bit more polished and Anthropic wasn't so restrictive. There's also Paseo, but it has some issues with OpenCode sub-agent liveness checks (I've seen them hang, though the same happened with Kepler, might be a GLM 5.3 issue idk).

> It felt to me that Codex created a much simpler solution in terms of code architecture than Claude.

This feels odd, cause I've seen people say the exact opposite thing, that the GPT 5.x models seem to love overengineering etc.

> The output of the Codex agent harness is much more “technical” than the one from Claude. Claude feels more like your colleague in a Tuple session writing to you while Codex feels more like a version of Data from Star Trek.

This is very much preferable to me omg, maybe I should give OpenAI a look again.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

deepseek?

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by enraged_camel »

jmaker wrote: post #101
roamerz wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to agree with you there. I did some good work with Claude then Fable came out - impressed with that as well. Then they dropped access to it and upon returning was never the same - even the Opus models for some reason. Then one day I burned through my limit in about 10 minutes and had to get a project completed. I subscribed to Codex and it has been fantastic - finished my project and continued on to others. I…

I don’t get Claude, and that’s almost exactly what I did - I dropped to Claude Pro $20 + Codex Pro $100, and then unsubscribed from Claude and ramped up Codex. The Claude Pro is consumed within an hour on a simple task. I wish only Codex worked a bit faster than on the Fast mode. I used to rely on Fable for research when it was first out, today it doesn’t seem to be much better than Opus, and it uses up the quota exc…

It is wild to read stuff like this when it is OpenAI that is being blamed for rug-pulling users and secretly reducing limits. It's such a big mess that Codex's product lead has been frantically posting updates on Twitter about it.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by bob1029 »

I'm still using gpt-5.5 in copilot (visual studio proper) as a "custom" model. It feels like I've been enjoying an ~unpatched exploit while everyone else wallows in the proverbial mud.

A large part of what pushes developers toward these products appears to be the billing model. Pre-paying for tokens is some kind of ideological red line for a lot of developers. I think this is a strategic error. The subscription models have so many more perverse incentives baked in. Those paying $100/m+ for subscription access are almost certainly getting taken for a ride based upon my experience with prepaid tokens.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by gorgolo »

qurren wrote: post #197
217 wrote: post #10

while everyone is somehow still stuck on and fascinated by claude, heres your quick update on the sota of coding models and harnesses mid august 2026 codex is good, both cli and desktop app, you get lots of usage on any plan. sol is good! and gets the job done, write or dictate a very long and thoughtful prompt, and leave sol xhigh or max fast working on it for an hour or so omp is an amazing harness, any feature cla…

Any opinions (by anyone really) on how much I can trust Claude vs. Codex (vs. something else) to not leak my coding conversations or use them for training? I have the appropriate privacy settings set up but wondering how much I can trust each company with them.

I’ve been using codex more recently, like others here.

But one thing I’ve noticed which I find a bit of a red flag: by default you only archive chats. If you go online, it says there’s a location in settings where can delete your archive. But it’s not that obvious where to find, and when I finally find some link, it was literally broken. It said it can’t find any archived chats, even though I archive them all the time.

Bit of a red flag for me. Both Anthropic and OpenAI claim that when you delete a chat, it’s gone after some retention period. They’re just words but if they’re secretly training on your traces and you delete your chats, then they would need to break two terms/conditions: ignoring your “train on my data” preference and ignoring your orders to delete chats. So it is an extra barrier.

But OpenAI, as far as I can tell, doesn’t let you delete your chats. Convenient then if they change their mind about training sometime in the future.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by sdthjbvuiiijbb »

timr wrote: post #220
sdthjbvuiiijbb wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, I'm trying to understand as best I can. I find your position so completely devoid of any inkling of personal or social responsibility that it takes quite some empathy to muster up a reply that's not wildly uncivil. I also think it's callous to brush away "political reasons" as though it's some trivial abstract thing. Or perhaps it comes from a place of nihilism? I choose not to give my money to peopl…

> I find your position so completely devoid of any inkling of personal or social responsibility that it takes quite some empathy to muster up a reply that's not wildly uncivil. Oh stop. Other people believe different things than you. If you cannot see how using a coding agent is not "devoid of personal or social responsibility", then you really need to step away from the keyboard.

Using or not using a coding agent is not what I took issue with.

What I find devoid of responsibility is the argument you made originally--that making choices as a consumer informed by anything external to the direct value you're paying for is pointless/inexplicable/self-sabotaging/whatever.

Based on your reply, I'm not actually sure if you actually believe this, or if it's only a form of motivated reasoning because you have some positive feelings about Elon or whatever, and that we wouldn't be having this argument if the original commenter was boycotting some other product for some reason you agreed with.

Re: A week of using Codex more than Claude

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Post by oblio »

zarzavat wrote: post #188
jmaker wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get how Claude is considered providing “unlimited” quotas. I use up my 5h on Max $100 and Team Premium in 2-3h of relaxed use of Opus 5 high+ on fresh sessions with just a couple skills/plugins. And my weekly quotas are gone in 3 days of such relaxed use. With Codex my $100 weekly quota is used up within 3 days with Sol high+ too. Im not convinced to pay $200 for Claude’s models. With Claude, I have to interv…

You may be causing a lot of cache misses. You have to use the caching efficiently otherwise you can burn up any plan in any amount of time.

How do you use the cache efficiently?
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