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Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by moritzwarhier »

GPerson wrote: post #109
causal wrote: post #30

There's some psychological mechanism by which my brain immediately recognizes AI generated text and just short-circuits to "there is no information here". And when I force myself to read AI-generated text I realize I'm making my brain do creative work to impart meaning to the words. It is exhausting because my brain is literally trying to do a just-in-time rewrite of the text into something valuable. Something is dee…

People should notice that it is constantly inventing plausible jargon, some of which may or may not have been used in some specific context.

It gets worse with language mixing, but I can't help from finding it funny at times, unless it bites me.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by rnd33 »

figers wrote: post #103
pyridines wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This looks interesting, but would you mind saying a sentence or two about why before I commit to an hour-long video? It looks like it shows how they work internally, which is sort of a non sequitur. Brains also work mechanistically. I'm claiming that any system which is able to do what AIs do must necessarily have some sort of intelligence.

fair reply to an hour video, Scott is just so good to hear his talk is better than I can explain it... go to 24 minutes and 07 seconds. it's statistically determining what the next word should be based on all the text it's been trained on. It's not intelligence and he shows what probability it puts on each word that it chooses, but also shows a lot of the other words it was thinking of using. In a later part he shows…

Isn't this a case of missing the trees for the forest though? The human brain is not an LLM, and an LLM is not intelligent in the same way as a human brain.

However, an LLM is a prediction machine, prediction IS at the very least one (or the most fundamental) element of intelligence. The brain most surely contains at least some kind of simulacrum of a prediction machine. How that prediction machine is used or wrapped is another matter.

If I said to you: "Blue blue blue, the color of my car is red", would you have absolute confidence in your prediction that my car is red? Or would the way I phrased that sentence make you slightly uncertain, and wonder if there's some miscommunication going on here?

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by dev_hugepages »

SamBam wrote: post #7

That last image is bizarre. The quiche, cream and even the salad look like they've been given the trypophobia treatment. Which might even make sense, because there were always (still are?) those horrible ads in the chumbox area of news sites that used trypophobia and other creepy body-horror stuff to get you to click. [1] So maybe the hope is that you don't really look closely at the quiche, but some reptilian party…

This is a quirk of the last gpt image model (gpt-image-2). It put this sort of high frequency noise on all of the image especially if it's in a "drawn" style. There is often lots of other tells that this model in particular generated it.

Image models somewhat watermarking the image in a way that's very easily identifiable by a human seems present in all the image models of the big labs, since DALL-E 3 on OpenAI's side and the first nano banana on Google's side. I have no idea what they did to reach this and why they don't try to fix it.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by tptacek »

josefritzishere wrote: post #2

As people rely more on AI they experience cognitive atrophy. This is measurable in IQ loss, and other symptoms we might otherwise associate with early onset dementia or Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

I'd love to see the cite for people experiencing cognitive atrophy and measured IQ loss from using AI.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by figers »

rnd33 wrote: post #112
figers wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fair reply to an hour video, Scott is just so good to hear his talk is better than I can explain it... go to 24 minutes and 07 seconds. it's statistically determining what the next word should be based on all the text it's been trained on. It's not intelligence and he shows what probability it puts on each word that it chooses, but also shows a lot of the other words it was thinking of using. In a later part he shows…

Isn't this a case of missing the trees for the forest though? The human brain is not an LLM, and an LLM is not intelligent in the same way as a human brain. However, an LLM is a prediction machine, prediction IS at the very least one (or the most fundamental) element of intelligence. The brain most surely contains at least some kind of simulacrum of a prediction machine. How that prediction machine is used or wrapped…

LLMs are awesome awesome tech!

A lot of people seem to think it's human level intelligence.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by iceflinger »

peder wrote: post #67
causal wrote: post #30

There's some psychological mechanism by which my brain immediately recognizes AI generated text and just short-circuits to "there is no information here". And when I force myself to read AI-generated text I realize I'm making my brain do creative work to impart meaning to the words. It is exhausting because my brain is literally trying to do a just-in-time rewrite of the text into something valuable. Something is dee…

> There's some psychological mechanism by which my brain immediately recognizes AI generated text and just short-circuits to "there is no information here". I think you need to self-correct here, because otherwise you'll be ineffective in an information setting, where I expect AI-generated resources will not only be the norm, they will absolutely swamp the environment.

AI-generated resources swamping the information environment only makes it more important to have the mental mechanisms for quickly filtering out their non-information.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by vablings »

demibabs wrote: post #44
vablings wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did notice after the fingerprinting update a marked uptake in strange language in responses. Specifically if I ask it to do something sometimes it will replace some of my request language with synonyms that don't actually make any sense. Like my request was fed through google translate twice

Watermarking doesn’t affect writing quality (on average) as long as the implementation is correct.

It does. There is a marked difference in certain word choices that sometime stick out like a sore thumb.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by causal »

iceflinger wrote: post #116
peder wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's some psychological mechanism by which my brain immediately recognizes AI generated text and just short-circuits to "there is no information here". I think you need to self-correct here, because otherwise you'll be ineffective in an information setting, where I expect AI-generated resources will not only be the norm, they will absolutely swamp the environment.

AI-generated resources swamping the information environment only makes it more important to have the mental mechanisms for quickly filtering out their non-information.

Yeah I don't think the solution to a flood of useless information is to try and digest more of it.

Re: I'm becoming AI-blind

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Post by causal »

xnx wrote: post #47
causal wrote: post #30

There's some psychological mechanism by which my brain immediately recognizes AI generated text and just short-circuits to "there is no information here". And when I force myself to read AI-generated text I realize I'm making my brain do creative work to impart meaning to the words. It is exhausting because my brain is literally trying to do a just-in-time rewrite of the text into something valuable. Something is dee…

> my brain immediately recognizes AI generated text I bet it does. I bet it also recognizes some human text as AI text, and doesn't detect other AI text.

I am not claiming to have a perfect AI classifier. That is an unnecessary claim that distracts from the broader point.
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