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Re: Ox Alpha

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GLM-5.3 is one of the faster models, at least according to artificialanalysis - openAI and Anthropic are the slowest.

Glm-5.3 is dog slow compared to opus and sol. I tried the same real world task on all three and GLM-5.3 was the slowest by a factor of 3.

On matched hardware?

Re: Ox Alpha

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Everyone trains on your data. With Chinese providers at least I'm getting a open weight model out of it.

That's very defeatist. Do you have any concrete reason to think the major providers are lying to every one of their business/API customers about not training or storing the data? The business loss of trust would outweigh any benefits of the data. (And if they freely lie about such things, I don't know why they would bother taking the PR hit when they announced fable had temporary data retention for their abuse preven…

Because they know that in the end there will only be a few winners, and if you are one of them, you will settle even if its for billions, and if not it doesn't matter because you will be bankrupt anyway.

And besides various companies have been caught ripping torrents and other copyright data, what makes you so sure that same companies wont rip your data too.

Thats on top of 50 to a 100 years of companies straight up breaking the law to get ahead. Various ubers and food delivery app being the latest example.

I dont trust a lot of companies that i have to work with in some form or other anyway, with Oracle being on top of my personal shit list, followed by Salesforce and Broadcom.

And I dont think most of the AI companies are more ethical than any of the above.

Re: Ox Alpha

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Glm-5.3 is dog slow compared to opus and sol. I tried the same real world task on all three and GLM-5.3 was the slowest by a factor of 3.

On matched hardware?

i'm pretty sure they mean on their official APIs? how would they know what hardware anthropic and openai run their models on?

Re: Ox Alpha

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Anonymous unreleased models are made available on arena.ai all the time, it's not really news that one is on openrouter...

There seems to be a big increase in posts that link to OpenRouter for no good reason, even when a better sources are available.

Re: Ox Alpha

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it's not China that is protecting the Epstein class btw

1. In the US on that item, it's ~50/50 or whatever.

2. In China, aren't even the biggest business leaders, the most famous celebrities, etc. simply "disappeared" if they won't support the party-line? Or even being "disappeared" for something like accusing a former vice-premier of sexual assault? For example, the BBC headline/article "Why do Chinese billionaires keep vanishing?"

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I don’t understand this mentality which I see over and over again on here. It’s not like the US frontier labs are beacons of morality and transparency. It’s also pretty accepted within this community that a lot of data fed to US tech companies ends up with the Israeli government. Meanwhile the current US government headed by Donny Tango has done a very thorough job of proving itself to be about as predictable and dep…

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Are you sure you are not talking about CIA?

Re: Ox Alpha

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Model is suspiciously fast and has a low reported output token count (using via OpenRouter's Chat), both of which aren't representative of models from the big Chinese labs. Odd.

> suspiciously fast

They're reporting ~30tps, that's about in line with many medium sized models served by Chinese providers

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> Chinas national policy is to destroy everyone’s life using espionage, bribery etc . They frame lack of morality as strength. And that differs from US foreign policy, how?

the US has threatened to invade 15 countries in 2026, including ally countries (Denmark and Canada)

Israel (with US money) is attacking Gaza, Cisjordania, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, now threatening Turkey and Egypt.

But yeah, China bad I guess

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I don’t understand this mentality which I see over and over again on here. It’s not like the US frontier labs are beacons of morality and transparency. It’s also pretty accepted within this community that a lot of data fed to US tech companies ends up with the Israeli government. Meanwhile the current US government headed by Donny Tango has done a very thorough job of proving itself to be about as predictable and dep…

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> Hungary ,

The Hungary that JD Vance tried to influence elections in, in favour of an autocratic asshole that peddles antisemitism and FUD regarding Ukraine?

> Canada,

The Canada currently harassed by the sad joke of a POTUS with a trade war?

> half of the Africa ,

The half hit by Ebola with retracted USAID, or the other half? Like that one that includes South Africa, the only African country the USA grants asylum right now--to white farmers over racism concerns? Or the half including Sudan or the Kongo, ravaged by civil war, enabled with American weapons and strategic neglect?

> war in Ukraine ,

The war enabled by no-one but the USA's support for Russia? Remember the red carpets for Putin?

> North Korea ,

You mean the country that only exists because of the USA's Korean War? The country led by "a good friend" of the American president?

> Iran

The Iran currently under siege by the USA and Israel in an unsanctioned attack war?

> you name it .

Oh sure! We can gladly continue with Gaza, Vietnam, Cuba, Bhutan, South Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Denmark and Iceland, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, ... there are so many more places fucked up by the USA and its agencies!

> They will fund any sick sycophantic government if they let them build their plants .

You mean like in Venezuela, Gaza, or whatever the clown in chief has planned for Iran?

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