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The August 17 outage

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Re: The August 17 outage

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So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

I’m getting a lot more done. Hobby projects that languished for years are coming along great, at quality and depth I could never have found time for before.

Same. Helping family out when I generally was too tired to do it earlier. They're all very happy too

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The issue with these systems is that they lack Github's sophistication for issue tracking, knowledge transfer, and automation. I think Gitlab is a mature product in its own space and unlikey to change, for instance, at this point. Codeberg also has the issue of having a political stance which means they will not accept just anyone's use of the platform. That is absolutely their right and I have no issue with it, but…

Gitlab has the benefit of having very little traffic, both free and paid. Their limits are still way above the current usage so less likely to be an issue

GitLab has its own problems. It might be somewhat more available than GitHub lately, but it too is not immune to incidents, particularly involving workflow dispatch and managed runner availability.

Plus the UX isn’t nearly as good. Sometimes it feels downright clunky in comparison.

Re: The August 17 outage

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So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

To some extent we are getting more things done as well. In my company (mid-sized startup), they're making us push features every other day now as opposed to maybe 1-2 features per person per sprint. Back when I joined, things were a lot slower. Today, they expect freshers to push new features on day one. But ofc, slop has increased a lot more as well.

And how many of that features are actually used?

How long do they last until the get replaced by the next feature?

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More done + more leisure.

That's how it's sold, but have you heard about any major tech company that sends their worker home when they've achieved what they used to achieve pre-AI? EDIT: Instead of simply down-voting, you're welcome to name examples that proves me wrong ;)

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So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

More done + more leisure.

Is it used afterwards or done and forgotten?

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I’m getting a lot more done. Hobby projects that languished for years are coming along great, at quality and depth I could never have found time for before.

Same. Helping family out when I generally was too tired to do it earlier. They're all very happy too

Are they happy about the circumstances of AI too?

Higher resource consumption and the set back in CO2 reduction?

Re: The August 17 outage

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load balancer failure? rate limit woudl address concurrency limits? throttle or queue up messages. auto-scale failed cause was misconfiguration policy, which i admit cannot be handled by my suggestions. The cascade? it's downstream service degradation, which I mentione should have had been prevented with queues. One of the jobs that queues/kafka solve is to prevent these downstream outages.

If your LB is down, you're just kind of screwed. You can't enqueue things if requests aren't getting through at all. Same deal with authn/authz issues, which they also had. If you can't answer the question "is this message allowed to be added to the queue" you can't enqueue stuff. GitHub does use queueing for all kinds of stuff internally, though, because they're not morons.

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Re: The August 17 outage

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I applaud GitHub. However, I think no matter how valiant they are they will not climb out from under this. The scale problem will keep getting worse, and it's getting worse in a way I don't think is translating to more money for them. Sooner or later, they're going to have to charge for things currently free. I've been saying this for a while: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47534499

Yes, but there are sharks in the water. Can GitHub afford to lose less money than them, at a slower rate?

Yes, they can, because I don't think other forges are actually making money.

GitHub is the de facto standard.

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Doesn't do you any good if the outage is in the circuit breaking layer, which it was for GitHub (this started as a load balancer outage).

Ideally you have levers further up from your local load balancers as well. Even at the edge. Granted you never want those to trigger but it’s better than fighting a storm while you fix things.

I wondered that myself. Curious as to why they couldn’t shed load at the edge to help protect goodput.

Re: The August 17 outage

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Bonkers is right. Where in those ~12 billion commits is the software, products and "innovations" which are supposed to be making our lives better? Software and apps in particular are getting worse, normies hate AI more than ever because they're even less likely to get their desired outcome when calling their doctor or trying to get their online order refunded when chatting with a cutely named chatbot, wages for (most…

This comment comes up over and over again and it's incredibly ignorant. To give just a single example, ai code dev has enabled people to make tools for themselves that they didn't have before. I've made a language learning app for myself. Its working better than Duolingo so far, for me. Its not really public

Are you going to be writing your own exam too?
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