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Re: The August 17 outage

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Makes sense given the ubiquity of agentic coding. I made a joke to my coworker today that all we do is make sure AI agents can communicate with other AI agents.

It’s funny how the quality of the average commit message has gone up, now that we rarely read or write them directly anymore.

You may be confusing articulate and confident with useful and accurate.

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"Since April, monthly commits have grown from 1.4 billion to 2.9 billion. " Wow, that is some incredible growth in a really short time.

So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

To some extent we are getting more things done as well. In my company (mid-sized startup), they're making us push features every other day now as opposed to maybe 1-2 features per person per sprint. Back when I joined, things were a lot slower. Today, they expect freshers to push new features on day one.

But ofc, slop has increased a lot more as well.

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I applaud GitHub. However, I think no matter how valiant they are they will not climb out from under this. The scale problem will keep getting worse, and it's getting worse in a way I don't think is translating to more money for them. Sooner or later, they're going to have to charge for things currently free. I've been saying this for a while: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47534499

Yes, but there are sharks in the water. Can GitHub afford to lose less money than them, at a slower rate?

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Distributing across different services wouldn't be a bad idea.... I still can't help but feel a little grateful for what they do across the free side of things. I know it isn't altruism, and I know nobody needs to defend a billion dollar corporation but... Name another service that does what they do for FREE (and no ads) at this scale. It isn't easy. Wikipedia has probably more usage, but is a simpler endeavor. (exce…

My only push back would be on the FREE part. I coulda bought that 5 years ago. Now I look at GitHub and go, "if the product is free, it's because Im the product" with all their co-pilot stuff.

Another fair take. I mean, hell, a lot of companies are bought literally just for their user lists (to sell new products to). I can't think of a nicer user list than a list of potential developers.

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Everyone suggesting that they simply charge users for commits to drive off AI-heavy users forgets that Github is owned by Microsoft, who has a big incentive to keep having developers use AI. I suspect that Microsoft would even prefer to have Github operate at a loss, if that loss were because all its users were using their models and paying for OpenAI subscriptions to generate the code.

This is like letting someone stay in your house for free while charging them to burn it down.

If you can sell them fuel, it might be a lucrative business.

Re: The August 17 outage

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"Since April, monthly commits have grown from 1.4 billion to 2.9 billion. " Wow, that is some incredible growth in a really short time.

So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

I have some big issues with this technology and the companies behind it, but I know of quite a few people personally who were not previously coders but have now been able to use LLMs to make their own custom software, solving real problems they had.

Re: The August 17 outage

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wow. they should really institute a maximum amount of individual pushes per-month per-user.

That would just drive users into the arms of the alternatives, which would love to own the world's code... like Cursor/Musk. Microsoft and GitHub's only option is to suck it up, absorb this growth, and lower failure rates. They have the money, so that's not the issue. As someone on the sidelines, this is really interesting to watch unfold.

I don't think anyone would love to own the world's AI slop. The capex and revenue expenditure would be too high for any ROI.

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Sorry to suggest this but if they charged everyone say $1/mo. it would absolutely help the massive surge from AI coding they seem to have had. I don't like paying for free stuff but gh certainly worth it.

You are always paying one way or another, I prefer to pay in dollars and not frustration, attention, or privacy.

Not an option. Companies are happy to sell you products at premium prices, take your money, and then still collect, mine, insecurely store, and sell all your private data.

Re: The August 17 outage

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"Since April, monthly commits have grown from 1.4 billion to 2.9 billion. " Wow, that is some incredible growth in a really short time.

So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

One of the things I've done is create an entire fully functional GitHub alternative that does more of what I want and hosts all of my other projects, so yes I at least am getting considerably more done.
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