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Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by monksy »

suddenlybananas wrote: post #179
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s been broken for me for at least a week. When I click that link I get: Log in to use old Reddit To keep Reddit safe, accounts are required to access old Reddit. Log in, or continue without an account on reddit.com. By continuing, you agree to our User Agreement and acknowledge that you understand the Privacy Policy — Somehow Reddit thinks I care enough about their content to set up an account and log in just to r…

"To keep Reddit safe", god why do they have to lie in such an obnoxious and patronising way?

because its spez. That is his nature.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by eknkc »

lelanthran wrote: post #217
eknkc wrote: post #193

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> So many developer-hostile things lately. It is extraordinary how they managed to fuck up all of their goodwill with all these unnecessary stuff. They truly are a hostile company if I have ever seen one. And they had the entire developer community cheering for them a couple months ago. I hope they fail in their mission, whatever that is. Because I'm sure it's no benefit to anyone ever.

> It is extraordinary how they managed to fuck up all of their goodwill with all these unnecessary stuff. The product is almost completely vibed with no humans in the loop (neither writing nor reading). IOW, there is little to no human judgement or care exercised in the production and maintenance of it, with predictable results.

I mean their track record when humans are in the loop is not better either. Decisions on hidden downgrades, subscription usage restrictions, account bans, neverending dance around model availability on subscription plans. Keeping CC closed source. Not releasing a single open model. BURNING BOOKS..

OpenAI feels like a bastion of competent management and development compared to this shit show and they have a psychopath on the helm. This is an achievement by itself.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by vikramkr »

DannyBee wrote: post #187

So many developer-hostile things lately. Just a few days ago they turned on an experiment the forces claude code to use bash over standard tools in auto mode. From the system prompt directly, new as of August 18th: Do your work through the Bash tool wherever it can accomplish the job: read files with cat, head, or sed -n, search with grep and find, and make file changes with sed, heredocs, or short scripts, rather th…

Oh ffs is that why it suddenly started running into a ton of permissions errors trying to read and write files outside it's sandbox (I think the auto mode classifier blocks bash commands that would be allowed as read commands) and runs into all this nonsense where it uses bash to read a file then later tries to use the write tool and gets blocked on "must read file before writing it" and stuff? I thought I was going crazy yesterday- like had something changed ov5or had I just somebody not noticed it was failing tool calls that badly for months until yesterday but it makes sense if it was just because of that system prompt update. That's so god damn annoying idk how many tokens are getting wasted in the past couple days on these failed tool calls but it's not a trivial number

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by epistasis »

agentdev001 wrote: post #61
annzabelle wrote: post #47

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What tools do you find are better? I have been happy with Claude Code lately, but I haven't explored other options much in over a year. Curious to try something else out if it's less rambling and tangential.

> less rambling and tangential This is not necessarily a problem with the harness (IE, swapping from Claude Code wouldn't necessarily fix this). If what you're looking to avoid is specifically 'rambling and tangential', you can get quite far with anything that adds directives to avoid those things, early in every context window. Ie, through use of Agents.md/claude.md, skills, hooks, and so on. Changing model would al…

Yeah, exactly, the thinking process of the latest Claude models have really mucked up the responses they show to users, presumably to game benchmarks or something. My agents are constantly referring to things that happened behind the scenes, either in thinking or with subagents, as if I had full visibility into every aspect of everything they saw. But with Claude Code, everything is hidden.

I've taken to looking through the jsonl of sessions rather than trying to get Claude Code to explain what it means, and have better success about 50% of the time.

Older models work better, IMHO, and one can configure Claude Code to use any model that supports Anthropic Messages format, or a translator to other models, but the TUI itself is something I'm also straining against, and prefer Pi usually.

Anthropic's moat is actually workplace environments that are serving the opposing goals of 1) executive demands to use AI, and 2) legal demands to keep all company data on lockdown. In that environment, employees can get locked into whatever the approved AI methods are, and Anthropic excels in navigating that.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by VCFundedGenYer »

Anthropic started out as the "safe", "ethical" and "computer science elite" type personality facade but after that stopped working (i.e., they were booted out of the US gov), they went full enshittification. Not like they were to be trusted in the first place (Reminder: no AI company is good).

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by ydat »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #225

Anthropic started out as the "safe", "ethical" and "computer science elite" type personality facade but after that stopped working (i.e., they were booted out of the US gov), they went full enshittification. Not like they were to be trusted in the first place (Reminder: no AI company is good).

> Anthropic started out as the "safe", "ethical" and "computer science elite" type personality facade but after that stopped working (i.e., they were booted out of the US gov), they went full enshittification.

Wow you mean the things that keeps happening happened again? Eventually we’ll have to learn to recognize and stomp out the snakes.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by MintPaw »

cedws wrote: post #211
DannyBee wrote: post #187

So many developer-hostile things lately. Just a few days ago they turned on an experiment the forces claude code to use bash over standard tools in auto mode. From the system prompt directly, new as of August 18th: Do your work through the Bash tool wherever it can accomplish the job: read files with cat, head, or sed -n, search with grep and find, and make file changes with sed, heredocs, or short scripts, rather th…

For what reason are they encouraging it to use bash over the purpose-specific tools?

Probably because it makes distilling and external analysis/tracking harder.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by wlonkly »

Frost1x wrote: post #180
fmajid wrote: post #149

I didn’t even realize Claude Code doesn’t honor AGENTS.md. Nothing a quick sed -i -e s/CLAUDE.md/AGENTS.md/g can’t fix

I was thinking ln -s AGENTS.md CLAUDE.md but to each their own.

It works, but the problem is that you then have to do that in every repo you clone, it gets annoying.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

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Post by olejorgenb »

DannyBee wrote: post #218
cedws wrote: post #211

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For what reason are they encouraging it to use bash over the purpose-specific tools?

If i'm trying to steel-man why, I presume because the read/write/edit tools use more context tokens because they don't support reading part of a file/etc. So the agent is going to put less into context when it uses sed to see 15 lines of a file than using read and putting the entire file into context. That is my best charitable guess at what they are hoping to achieve. Of course, there is an obvious set of solutions…

Surely the read and update tools support ranges
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