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Re: Bun 1.4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No non-AI coding anymore? I think not. https://handcraftedcode.org

Some people still make crafts by hand.

Plenty of people on that list maintain serious production systems or open source projects in use by a wide variety of people. It's not just some nerds tinkering in their basement.

Re: Bun 1.4

#112
I’m just very disappointed with Bun.

With LLM, Bun can ship new features effortlessly and bundle many features directly into the runtime, which could be implemented by third-party libraries.

While this is more convenient for Bun user, this development approach just steals the time-tested designs of these open-source libraries. By offering simplified bundled APIs, Bun diminishes the value of contribution on those libraries.

As a general-purpose runtime, Bun cannot continously improve on every one of these domains in depth; it can only provide the most common functionality. When changes are needed, developers also cannot easily patch or customize the interfaces bundled with the Bun runtime itself.

If Bun becomes widely adopted, its APIs could effectively become locked in. That would not be healthy for the ecosystem.

Re: Bun 1.4

#114
post #32

While it has been used by Anthropic, the main question is if it works in other Bun's 1.3 production settings. Ignoring all the improvements, if it does work and no major bug or problems occurred, We are in for some management top down "Rewrite it in Rust" action over the next few years. And perhaps even worst, management will believe in Claude feed into Claude development. This isn't so much about Bun or Node.js any…

This isn't so much about Bun or Node.js any more. It is the battleground for AI and non-AI coding. There is no non-AI coding anymore. I guarantee you Node.js team is heavily using AI to make changes and debug.

> There is no non-AI coding anymore.

The JVM and GCC have forbidden AI generated code. The world is bigger than you think.

Re: Bun 1.4

#115
post #9

This blog post / changelog is extremely long. Around 50 metres long on mobile.

So what. Ask your claude to read it. You're on the $200 plan, right?

Re: Bun 1.4

#116

Absolute crickets from the "there's no way LLM's can rewrite Bun to Rust this quickly, it's going to be buggy, it's marketing" crowd Comments here 3 months ago are quite something: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488

Sure I’ll bite the obvious bait, why not.

> Absolute crickets from the "there's no way LLM's can rewrite Bun to Rust this quickly, it's going to be buggy, it's marketing" crowd

> Comments here 3 months ago are quite something: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488

Did you… perhaps read the entire comment you just posted? The crowd that was saying “no way they did that in 11 days” sure seems correct given that the release today is 3 months later. 3 months is longer than 11 days. Significantly so, in fact.

Re: Bun 1.4

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post #63
post #25

This is awesome. slightly aside, but I find it worrying that our industry treats a lot of cannon events in stride and don't organize around that idea or to mitigate the risks around that idea. things that everybody basically just complained but ended up working out fine, - Bun rust rewrite. - Elon Musk firing 80% of twitter by stack ranking employees by code committed - autocompletion basically just taking over every…

How are you deciding that either of these things worked out fine

Well if you ignore all the issues and declare victory, I think you’ll find it’s possible to decide anything is fine.

Re: Bun 1.4

#118
post #3

It's weird their promotional video repeats "you can do without installing dependencies", if I want headless browser testing is that wrong to install a project that offers that? Why would I want everything reimplemented in this massive binary? Why would Bun be anymore in touch with nuances of all these different technologies then individual projects dedicated to their own speciality? JS Runtime, Package Manager, Test…

If you want Node just use Node, complaining that something else is not Node is crazy.

Re: Bun 1.4

#119
post #9

This blog post / changelog is extremely long. Around 50 metres long on mobile.

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Is it slop if the product is working as intended?

I don't use Bun, so I don't know if quality has degraded. But if it hasn't and they're shipping features users want faster than ever, I wouldn't call it slop. I don't care who wrote the code if the end product is working.

Re: Bun 1.4

#120
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is currently on the front page of lobsters, I saw it even before I saw the bun 1.4 release announcement https://tipiirai.com/writing/bun-rust-rewrite-worries

Lobste.rs is now flagging Bun 1.4 post as spam and comments are dismissing it as nothing, even as that blog post got much more discussion and piling on about the rewrite. Internet echo chambers are quite a problem. AI success and its immense implications are wreaking havoc on the ability of even intellectuals in HN and lobsters to face reality in front of them, even as their predictions become falsified again and aga…

honestly, no opinions on bun either way, I was just pointing out that the pushback against the big bang AI rewrite is far from quieted down.
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