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Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by W3zzy »

mtgh2s wrote: post #109
W3zzy wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven't had Windows freeze on me for ages. I had a frozen linux server that ran out of RAM yesterday.

edit: I meant that regularly hitting OOM on a production server is usually more of a provisioning/resource-management issue. Obviously, how the OS handles OOM once it happens is still its responsibility. Running out of memory on a linux server sounds more like a skill issue than something comparable to how a desktop OS should behave :\

Could be. I'm new to the game. Started homelabbing a year ad a half ago.

Thing is that I never know this could happen. As a Windows user I'm used to a system that does stuff in the background without knowing how it works.

My Linux VM's can be broken because I'm in charge and I'm a noob. I kind of love it. I've learned so much from troubleshooting.

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Post by W3zzy »

LtWorf wrote: post #103
W3zzy wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven't had Windows freeze on me for ages. I had a frozen linux server that ran out of RAM yesterday.

Use a windows server then :D

Nah, I'm not complaining. I love the freedom of Linux. I'm fairly new at the game so today I'll be teaching myself how not to mess up like this again.

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Post by 47635274172635 »

parl_match wrote: post #309
47635274172635 wrote: post #301

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Who should do it for you? If anyone wants they can submit a patch for it. The Linux world is a different kind of beast. I too went through the same motions as many newbies but at some point I just stopped complaining and started fixing what I didn't like. If you start screaming for corporate money which should fix things that's another can of worms, corporate doesn't really do good will, they are usually buying contr…

"Works for me and if it doesn't work for you, just fix it." Great, I should learn to become a kernel and device driver developer just to have a working desktop environment with non-tearing windowed video (still somehow an issue)? What a fucking joke lmao. I'll just keep buying Macs. > Who should do it for you? People who want me to use it.

I honestly don't really want you to use it. You want to use it, not me. I am not selling anything, Linus is not selling anything. The kernel is free my dude.

Stay on macos. Or windows. Whatever. Have fun.

edit: Just to be clear, my point is about entitled people demanding things like they paid for it. You do that in a restaurant, where you pay for the service, you expect certain things. I understand if something isn't working it isn't great, but spitting on it while it's free because you feel entitled is the wrong attitude. That's what a lot of people getting into Linux get wrong, they feel entitled to it, while it's free. You need to adjust your expectations.

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Post by a96 »

Twirrim wrote: post #223
eli_gottlieb wrote: post #215

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Call me an old geezer but I remember having this thing called swap.

Right, and when it gets filled, the OOM killer comes along and does its thing.

And kills some vital process instead of killing the JVM or the web browser that actually ate all the (virtual) memory.

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Post by kwar13 »

krisknez wrote: post #34

I hope there will be an update where when my RAM gets full my PC doesn't freeze and becomes unusable... I remember that Linux and Windows do this in different ways and Windows doesn't have the problem.

I'm on Ubuntu 26.04 and I feel it's made substantial improvements in that regard compared to 24.04. It does kill the offending process (well, its best guess at it) before it freezes for good.

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Post by hnlmorg »

Espressosaurus wrote: post #320
hnlmorg wrote: post #317

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> Who says it needs to be desktop for proper memory management, servers and embedded can crash willy-nilly with OOM? The context of the thread is about the UX. And the OS crashing isn’t a better option than an OOM killer. Frankly, there’s no good automated options. That’s why modern desktop OSs present users with a warning. And hence why we are talking about GUIs. > In any case, Xenix, DG/UX, SunOS/Solaris, Aix, HP-U…

Allowing allocations to fail is a solution. Alas, not one that was made back in 1970, so here we are.

Allocations can and do fail in Linux.

To be clear: I’m not trying to defend Linux here. Just calling out the GPs BS when he said Linux is uniquely bad in POSIX.

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Post by larksimian »

nchmy wrote: post #274
larksimian wrote: post #201

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Just ask any of the last gen coding agents to fix this for you and they'll make a script that tweaks a few things and it just works. Is it acceptable? No. Did it solve my endless crashes that I used to get every day? Yes. I don't love Ubuntu, I just hate modern Windows and find my ubuntu for work popos for gaming setup to be better for me. Ymmv.

why ubuntu for work and (ubuntu-based) popos for gaming? why not popos for both?

Our servers run Ubuntu. In practice it doesn't make that much of a difference I assume, but why diverge at all if I don't have to. I have separate laptops for work and personal anyway.
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