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Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by sunaookami »

mrec wrote: post #85
d3Xt3r wrote: post #11

Gosh, 7.2 literally just dropped with a bunch of awesome of performance/gaming related improvements (large folios, cache-aware scheduling, improved MGLRU reclaiming, Fair GPU Scheduler etc)... and I already can't wait for 7.3 to come out. Meanwhile in the Windows world, users hate updates... Like I genuinely can't think of a single instance that made users exclaim, "oh boy I just can't wait for the next Patch Tuesday…

The best thing about Win10 reaching EOL is not being at the mercy of Windows Update any more. It was by far the biggest risk to having a functioning system.

Running an unsupported OS is even more risky, especially with the excessive number of security updates needed while AI finds RCE after RCE.

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by LtWorf »

W3zzy wrote: post #96
mtgh2s wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my experience, Windows does freeze and become completely unusable too, just not usually from RAM usage hitting 100%. I don't use Windows much, nor do I care much about that environment, but from what I've seen it seems to keep RAM usage below 100% most of the time. What I do see pretty often is the drive getting stuck at 100% usage instead, which makes the whole system ridiculously unusable anyway.

Haven't had Windows freeze on me for ages. I had a frozen linux server that ran out of RAM yesterday.

Use a windows server then :D

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by aeyes »

chongli wrote: post #30
timpera wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. The Insider blog tends to be pretty up-to-date: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/ They seem to be focused on performance improvements because of the MacBook Neo pressure and RAM crisis, but right now, I'm mostly excited for the right-click menu and taskbar improvements. You can already do this with third-party software, but it's not the best experience unfortunately.

Are they finally going to fix the issue of having introduced a second right click menu that forces me to click “show more options” literally every single time I want to do anything?

Yes, they made it customizable. Here is a video showing the new options: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX_WsBnuLf8

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by jmbwell »

krisknez wrote: post #34

I hope there will be an update where when my RAM gets full my PC doesn't freeze and becomes unusable... I remember that Linux and Windows do this in different ways and Windows doesn't have the problem.

Solaris family kernels move this problem to run/allocation time, instead of waiting for the system to become unusable before trying to do something about it. Kinda nice

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by noisem4ker »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #53
d3Xt3r wrote: post #11

Gosh, 7.2 literally just dropped with a bunch of awesome of performance/gaming related improvements (large folios, cache-aware scheduling, improved MGLRU reclaiming, Fair GPU Scheduler etc)... and I already can't wait for 7.3 to come out. Meanwhile in the Windows world, users hate updates... Like I genuinely can't think of a single instance that made users exclaim, "oh boy I just can't wait for the next Patch Tuesday…

Any improvements with fractional scaling? Can anyone please link to any material reg the work being done for improving fractional scaling in Linux; it would be great if it could match the rendering quality of macOS.

Fractional scaling is now supported by major toolkits and compositors.

https://wayland.app/protocols/fractional-scale-v1

Also, I wouldn't hold the rendering quality of macOS as a high standard at all, since all it does is render at a multiple and then downsample, wasting energy and introducing blurriness.

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by bavell »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #63
d3Xt3r wrote: post #11

Gosh, 7.2 literally just dropped with a bunch of awesome of performance/gaming related improvements (large folios, cache-aware scheduling, improved MGLRU reclaiming, Fair GPU Scheduler etc)... and I already can't wait for 7.3 to come out. Meanwhile in the Windows world, users hate updates... Like I genuinely can't think of a single instance that made users exclaim, "oh boy I just can't wait for the next Patch Tuesday…

I use arch based linux. This year updates have broken video decoding twice. Font rendering once (still not fixed without manually deleting files.). And broken the whole system due to there not being a mechanism that makes sure all QT libraries upate at the same time once or twice. That is all one system. Meanwhile 4 separate windows pcs have not had problems with updates for at least 6 years

I use Arch exclusively and haven't had any of the issues you describe.

That said, I do occasionally deal with quirks due to the rolling distro nature of Arch. The benefits far outweigh the occasional upgrade pain IMO though.

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

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Post by mtgh2s »

W3zzy wrote: post #96
mtgh2s wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my experience, Windows does freeze and become completely unusable too, just not usually from RAM usage hitting 100%. I don't use Windows much, nor do I care much about that environment, but from what I've seen it seems to keep RAM usage below 100% most of the time. What I do see pretty often is the drive getting stuck at 100% usage instead, which makes the whole system ridiculously unusable anyway.

Haven't had Windows freeze on me for ages. I had a frozen linux server that ran out of RAM yesterday.

edit: I meant that regularly hitting OOM on a production server is usually more of a provisioning/resource-management issue. Obviously, how the OS handles OOM once it happens is still its responsibility.

Running out of memory on a linux server sounds more like a skill issue than something comparable to how a desktop OS should behave :\

Re: Linux 7.3 improves performance when running out of vRAM

#110

Post by TonyStr »

chongli wrote: post #30
timpera wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. The Insider blog tends to be pretty up-to-date: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/ They seem to be focused on performance improvements because of the MacBook Neo pressure and RAM crisis, but right now, I'm mostly excited for the right-click menu and taskbar improvements. You can already do this with third-party software, but it's not the best experience unfortunately.

Are they finally going to fix the issue of having introduced a second right click menu that forces me to click “show more options” literally every single time I want to do anything?

I'm not so annoyed by it except that I liked the old design (smaller text) better. What puzzles me more is why it takes >1000ms to open a simple right click menu? And even after it opening, it often has to "Load" some options? In what world does it take over a second to open a simple popup on modern hardware?
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