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Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

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Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

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Something seems off here, I don't see a huge climb in pricing. I feel $9 a month a seat is inline with SAAS pricing. Today's pricing: https://www.getharvest.com/pricing Pricing in 2023 (I looked at various years): https://web.archive.org/web/20230530052857/https://www.getha...

It's explained in the article. They now charge for number of projects, clients and tasks, as well as active users.

Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

#52

Private Equity destroys everything.

yes it does, but this kind of abuse is also inherent in the system we have built I remember fondly the time when computing was build on common interfaces and open formats. A abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced. Now we have closed platforms and enshitification.

> abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced.

Rose colored glasses much? We've never had the environment you're describing.

Do you recall the 00's and '10s? It was cluttered with closed systems that had ridiculously high costs to move away from. Look at Oracle, or 15-20 year dominance of MS Outlook and Exchange that was so difficult for many customers to deal with it forced the creation of the hosted exchange business model. Heck, go back another decade and look at Novell and WordPerfect.

We've always had closed platforms, and we've always had alternatives. Some businesses choose between them based on priorities that don't align with yours...

Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

#54

This is the problem with subscription based software. In the days when people owned the software they used, a price increase like this would simply not be possible. People would be able to upgrade their own software on their own timeline. Since Windows, despite its many faults, has a rock solid ABI (application binary interface), that piece of proprietary software from 2006 I use today still runs fine, as does that o…

This argument is unfortunately flawed. If the customers had been handed the software on day 1, by day 100 it would be full of security bugs, would need to be re-written for the new version of Node.js (the old one having been deprecated and also full of security bugs). They'd have to find somewhere to run it and pay someone to keep an eye on that deployment for when it does something weird that affects service. Oh and…

> If the customers had been handed the software on day 1, by day 100 it would be full of security bugs, would need to be re-written for the new version of Node.js (the old one having been deprecated and also full of security bugs).

We don't have to make everything a javascript app running on the open internet. Though even an insecure node server could be perfectly fine if deployed on the corpnet behind a VPN...

Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

#55
post #7

Some existing customers might drop off But obviously you need 16 seats to drop for every paying seat in order for that to earn less money It also opens up a new market that takes them more seriously I dabbled in dropshipping and would literally put the same ebay ad at a 1,000% market next to the (seemingly undervalued) supplier I would buy from If you searched the item you would see both ads and people bought from me…

This reminds me of the game Eve Online. One of the frequent stories to hit the grapevine was someone putting up a common item at an insane price point in Jita or other popular trading system. And people would buy them (rarely, but consistently). Something like a piece of an asteroid ore at 50 million ISK. It's not exactly a crime, but for me it definitely sits in a moral grey area, somewhere between American Health c…

I would've assumed it's small scale laundering. What you're saying is it may just be a very cheeky and brazen sales tactic? "Doesn't hurt to try"...

Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

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post #47
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do some tech consulting on the side and beg people (literally) to switch from Comcast (US TV and Internet Provider) to say YouTube TV, saving them hundreds of dollars a month. They WILL NOT do it, even though I would do all the work, show them how to do it, explain how it's essentially the same but much cheaper, how to use it, and not charge very much to do so (I bill typically less than $60 an hour, and it would o…

I think that Comcast is a USA only service so have no idea of what people watch or listen to on Comcast. But above all, why do they need a consultant to do the switch? There is more to it than a credit card and a subscription?

People are fickle, resistant to change, and do not default to action broadly speaking. Various levels of handholding and potentially encouragement can be required, and even then, some folks will still be like "Nah, I'm good." Humans are tricky.

Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

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post #47
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do some tech consulting on the side and beg people (literally) to switch from Comcast (US TV and Internet Provider) to say YouTube TV, saving them hundreds of dollars a month. They WILL NOT do it, even though I would do all the work, show them how to do it, explain how it's essentially the same but much cheaper, how to use it, and not charge very much to do so (I bill typically less than $60 an hour, and it would o…

I think that Comcast is a USA only service so have no idea of what people watch or listen to on Comcast. But above all, why do they need a consultant to do the switch? There is more to it than a credit card and a subscription?

> why do they need a consultant to do the switch?

Last time I had to cancel a Comcast subscription it took half a day of phone calls, and then I still had to hand-deliver the modem to a pretty dodgy service centre the wrong side of Dorchester

Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons

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post #45

https://archive.ph/3xFCY (when did BBC.com become paywalled?)

I think they realized that deapite their paid-for-by-TV-license status, they can do whatever they want to non-UK traffic.

bbc.com is part of BBC Worldwide, a separate commercial subsidy of the BBC, and not part of the TV license funding.
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