Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
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Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#2Private Equity destroys everything.
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#3> Haldenby, whose business consists of up to 15 staff in the UK at any one time, with sister companies also in the US and Australia, said he was "in shock" when he received an email detailing the price changes.
> Richard Haldenby, head of UK consultancy firm Salentis, told the BBC his monthly bill had risen from $130 (£95.50) to $2,110.
If you estimate 25 employees total, that's $100/seat/mo. That's on the high end for enterprise SaaS but not really shocking enough to be a news scandal. The $130 they paid was laughably low. I also would migrate to a cheaper service ofc but Bending Spoons was aligning with the market pricing (at least the pre-2025 market) more than anything.
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#4Private Equity destroys everything.
yes it does, but this kind of abuse is also inherent in the system we have built
I remember fondly the time when computing was build on common interfaces and open formats. A abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced.
Now we have closed platforms and enshitification.
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#5Private Equity destroys everything.
yes it does, but this kind of abuse is also inherent in the system we have built I remember fondly the time when computing was build on common interfaces and open formats. A abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced. Now we have closed platforms and enshitification.
This is why generative AI is great imho, it allows us to rapidly replicate capabilities that might experience enshittification without the historical moat of capital for investment in bespoke software engineering time.
Find use case, find stakeholders, wrangle stakeholders, build application with tokens, manage it in a non profit, coop, or similar model. License it in a way that prevents capture by commercial interests. Private equity (or rather, capital driven operating models in general) cannot enshittify what they cannot capture. If models continue to improve, this cycle can accelerate if generating "good code" continues to become more efficient and less resource intensive over time.
TLDR Building an anti-enshittification software factory.
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#6They're taking patio11's advice!
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#7Some existing customers might drop off
But obviously you need 16 seats to drop for every paying seat in order for that to earn less money
It also opens up a new market that takes them more seriously
I dabbled in dropshipping and would literally put the same ebay ad at a 1,000% market next to the (seemingly undervalued) supplier I would buy from
If you searched the item you would see both ads
and people bought from me
(you can’t do that at scale without getting flagged on that platform but a $8,000 pick me up was fine)
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#8Private Equity destroys everything.
yes it does, but this kind of abuse is also inherent in the system we have built I remember fondly the time when computing was build on common interfaces and open formats. A abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced. Now we have closed platforms and enshitification.
> A abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced.
Oracle has joined the chat :) (and them joining the chat is an additional clause to the initial contract, billed at 300% hourly rate, with a minimum block of 900 man-hours)
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes it does, but this kind of abuse is also inherent in the system we have built I remember fondly the time when computing was build on common interfaces and open formats. A abusive software supplier would be fired and replaced. Now we have closed platforms and enshitification.
This is why generative AI is great imho, it allows us to rapidly replicate capabilities that might experience enshittification without the historical moat of capital for investment in bespoke software engineering time. Find use case, find stakeholders, wrangle stakeholders, build application with tokens, manage it in a non profit, coop, or similar model. License it in a way that prevents capture by commercial interes…
I agree -- and I think that the applications should be open-sourced and in general provided to the public commons.
Some people won't like AI no matter what, but it's hard to argue with results that clearly benefit the public good and empower the little guy vs. public equity or the megacorp.
Re: Harvest hikes bills by 1500% after purchased by Bending Spoons
#10Some existing customers might drop off But obviously you need 16 seats to drop for every paying seat in order for that to earn less money It also opens up a new market that takes them more seriously I dabbled in dropshipping and would literally put the same ebay ad at a 1,000% market next to the (seemingly undervalued) supplier I would buy from If you searched the item you would see both ads and people bought from me…
This reminds me of the game Eve Online.
One of the frequent stories to hit the grapevine was someone putting up a common item at an insane price point in Jita or other popular trading system. And people would buy them (rarely, but consistently).
Something like a piece of an asteroid ore at 50 million ISK.
It's not exactly a crime, but for me it definitely sits in a moral grey area, somewhere between American Health care and selling bottled water in the desert for $1million/bottle.