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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Don't post generated text or AI-edited text. HN is for conversation between humans." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Worth noting that quoting and citing an LLM is miles better than just pasting AI generated text and passing it as your own. AND, if you are too harsh on the former, you incentivize the latter.
At this point I believe that when people do not cite using AI to generate their comment it's from a position of malice... like you're intentionally trying to position yourself as capable in whatever subject you're talking on but realistically you are not given the reliance on an LLM. Not saying anything about OP but just a general observation/opinion I've been building recently. Seems more common than ever to larp using AI.
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u are doing HN better than simon lately, nice
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#174Happy for the OpenRouter team. Been using the platform since early stages and the ability to run any AI model with the same api key and same request has been great to experiment with new models and being able to switch models in prod with minimal effort.
They also support fallback by default so you don’t have to write wrappers and logic to choose models, it just works with their SDk using config.
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#176Congrats!
Is that 100M of openrouter revenue? Or money that flows through openrouter? If the latter, 100M$ annualized looks like very little. It's as if a bank said that it has 100M$ of annual transfers, instead of 100M in revenue from bank fees and such. Hard to think of any type of company that can do the topline meme as effectively as a compute aggregator proxy. Almost like a bitcoin pool mining company counting their share…
We are in a bubble, but you are looking at this in the wrong way. OpenRouter basically creates lock-in through Stripe's distribution and family of products; it is much stronger within Stripe than alone. I agree valuations are absurd, but it is what it is. But if we have to go through a bubble for a16z to crash and burn, I am all for it.
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#178I've seen three or four others building routers. How hard is that really? The folk I spoke to needed only a few millions to build it (they claim). I've seen prototype of some too that looked pretty simple. Maybe the whole thing is driven by enterprise wanting the external vendor support?
It's hard. - They support 400 different models, 80 different providers, and an unlimited number of new custom agents. Every single model, provider, and agent, has its own weirdness that has to be accounted for. Tool calls change by model. Effort changes by model. Backend APIs (messages, responses, etc) change by provider. There are thousands of specific tweaks, fixes, hacks, that need to be implemented to make this t…
I did almost all of that alone, for TrustedRouter.com
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
But if you use any decent amount of tokens, it's probably worth saving the 15% by moving to the provider they're proxying. And if it's not worth it, then are you spending enough where it even effects Openrouter's bottom line? With enough devs playing with hobby projects I'm not doubting it's profitable, only that $7 billion seems way too high.
OR I can keep paying 15% markup till next month and then jump to newest / cheapest model with one-liner change instead of being locked to a model/provider.
Aren't they all the same api? Are you paying 15 % to change one line, and not, like, three?