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How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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I was looking at IKEA's home automation stuff, some of which uses the name TRÅDFRI and I thought the "FRI" part sounded like "free" and sure enough this just means "wireless". I'm guessing the "TRÅD" part is possibly a cognate of English "thread", so "thread free" is a literal translation. (I don't speak Swedish so forgive me if I'm completely off on this.)

That is the correct translation, well done!

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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IKEA's naming is pure genius. I bought a few NÄMMARÖ garden chairs for my garden a few weeks ago. And the chairs really feel like the furniture the people on NÄMMARÖ - an island somewhere in the Bohuslän archipelago - have used for ages. But NÄMMARÖ doesn't exist and the chairs were made in Vietnam. Good quality though, and not too difficult to assemble.

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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The fact that Sz in Hungarian reads as s and other way around, S becomes sh - is mind-boggling especially for Poles, where Sz is pronounced as sh . and S remains s .

Wait for the Italian where "cc" makes a "ch" sound and "ch" is "k" * When followed by e or i.

Oh mio Dio :x

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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> Every possible product name is carefully checked to avoid undesirable meanings in other languages, political or religious affiliations and fit into our global profile. I present to you "Svalka" wine glasses. Dump", rubbish heap", or easy, promiscuous woman of ill repute in informal Baltic (and Slavic?) slang.

You type that as if easy promiscuous woman of ill repute were undesirable...

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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I think your actual issue is that spelling and pronunciation are too inconsistent in your native language. With a more consistent language, it's pretty easy to remember foreign words and names using the pronunciation in your native language, assuming that the letters are mostly the same. You don't need to understand the word or know the correct pronunciation (though both obviously help).

There are 2 things that are unrelated. When you can't say or pronounce a word, in most language it is hard to remember it. Also, there is the question of degree of similarity or sound of reading unknown foreign words. If you don't speak ch ok Chinese, a lot of words with different meaning will kind of read or sound the same and it will be very hard to recall and differentiate them.

My point was that you can usually pronounce foreign words in your native language, if the alphabet is the same and your language has a straightforward mapping between spelling and pronunciation. And then you can derive the spelling from that fake pronunciation. For example, my native language is Finnish, and that approach works for most words in Germanic, Romance, and Baltic languages. Polish and Czech words are harder, as they often have too many consonants to have a Finnish pronunciation.

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

#316

> Every possible product name is carefully checked to avoid undesirable meanings in other languages This procedure does not always work: https://adland.tv/whats-name-case-2351-ikeas-gutvik-bunk-bed

I'm German, and I'd pronounce "-vik" the same as the beginning of "Victor". With a soft "w".

but for most non-lended/native words, V would be pronounce like the pun intends

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

#317

I was looking at IKEA's home automation stuff, some of which uses the name TRÅDFRI and I thought the "FRI" part sounded like "free" and sure enough this just means "wireless". I'm guessing the "TRÅD" part is possibly a cognate of English "thread", so "thread free" is a literal translation. (I don't speak Swedish so forgive me if I'm completely off on this.)

That is the correct translation, well done!

Cool! Thanks!

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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Most likely. In the early 90s there was a knock-off of Ikea called Stør which used the ø for exoticism. I had assumed that it was a Danish company, but apparently, not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STØR (The store where I bought some of my first furniture from—off the 60 in City of Industry—was quite possibly the original location).

> knock-off of ikea We have one called jysk... They're doing alright.

Stør was really blatant to the extent that they were successfully sued by IKEA for their duplication. They were eventually bought out by IKEA, probably for the real estate.

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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Clear and interesting names is extremely good customer experience. Most companies name their products straight from the ERP system, creating incomprehensible codes that sounds like they come from Star Trek. Ikea has pioneered so much within service design (design beyond the actual product). The in-store journey, the self-assembly, the assembly instructions, clear naming, clear product display, in-store restaurant exp…

At the opposite end of the spectrum we have Sony Mobile, where product names are probably assigned by their worst enemy. You can fully expect them to release a high end phone called Xperia one II 10 as successor to last year's Xperia one III And also a low-end phone called Xperia II 10 Ultra Making it impossible for buyers to know which phone to buy this year.

> At the opposite end of the spectrum we have Sony Mobile, where product names are probably assigned by their worst enemy.

Or maybe the USB-IF

Re: How does IKEA come up with names for its products?

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At the opposite end of the spectrum we have Sony Mobile, where product names are probably assigned by their worst enemy. You can fully expect them to release a high end phone called Xperia one II 10 as successor to last year's Xperia one III And also a low-end phone called Xperia II 10 Ultra Making it impossible for buyers to know which phone to buy this year.

Microsoft's school of naming versions, windows (95->98->xp->vista->seven->8...) and xbox (360, one, series x)

Don't worry, Microsoft has addressed their naming difficulties by determining that everything they ever make will now be called CoPilot.
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