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Re: The Amazon tax

#651
> It’s not technically a tax. Taxes produce valuable public benefits, like medical research and parks. This is simply legal theft.

An economist would not read past this first sentence.

Re: The Amazon tax

#652

I'm in the UK, and I've found that pretty much anything I can get on Amazon I can also get at John Lewis. It's probably more expensive - I'm in the lucky situation that I'm not particularly price-sensitive - but I much prefer the feeling of buying from JL. Very occasionally I'll buy something from Amazon like photo paper or some small gizmo that's difficult to find elsewhere. The one kind of physical shop I really mi…

> The one kind of physical shop I really miss is the kind of place where you can buy one screw, nail or picture hook etc.

So much agreement! I have a bunch of obscure parts like 99 wooden dowels from when I needed one and had to buy 100.

Screwfix is sometimes OK for this, but I still end up in situations like the above where I have 99 wooden dowels that will remain in my garage for all time.

(For what it's worth, I also completely agree with Amazon vs stores like John Lewis etc, I haven't bought anything from Amazon for years now, and definitely don't miss it at all)

Re: The Amazon tax

#653

I see the exact same thing on Play Store, and I think Google is outright complicit in fraud. The top result when you search for an app, even if by exact name, is always, literally 100% of the time, not the app you are looking for, but some other ad-infested knockoff spyware shit whose developer paid Google to be placed before the real thing.

I was using someone's computer who didn't have ad-block and this is rampant with Google's web search too.

It's unreal to me that you can search for a specific doctor's name in a specific town and end up seeing a sponsored result that uses the doctor's name in the ad's title but it's not the real office, instead it's someone else entirely.

Re: The Amazon tax

#654

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dark pattern I've noticed a few times is the exact match I type into Amazon search doesn't even return the item I entered but 2 or 3 entire pages of alternatives. I know the item is there because Google returns it, either as a search response or in their "shopping" widget. I can click through Google to Amazon and see the item, sometimes even from the certified seller. But if I enter the exact search term in Amazo…

Yes, this is a horrible practice. Not just Amazon… most major e-commerce platforms set up fake pages for products they don’t offer to try to get you to the products they actually do. Google needs to ban this practice because it makes their results garbage.

Google used to explicitly ban this and the very similar practise of keyword stuffing - they even delisted some high profile company sites (BMW is one that I remember) over those practices. They stopped caring about that sort of thing quite some time ago, and right now as they are in danger of losing what little most they have as people move to AI solutions where they are not the leader that they have historically been in the more traditional search space, I doubt it'll be any sort of priority for them in the foreseeable future.

Re: The Amazon tax

#655

I see the exact same thing on Play Store, and I think Google is outright complicit in fraud. The top result when you search for an app, even if by exact name, is always, literally 100% of the time, not the app you are looking for, but some other ad-infested knockoff spyware shit whose developer paid Google to be placed before the real thing.

No regulations -> fraud and scams

Expecting that the rich will do the right thing out of their good hearts is not just naive but actively damaging for society.

Re: The Amazon tax

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post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would show up at the competing doctor and make things as awkward as possible. They chose to do that ad.

Do they even have any idea that their ads are showing up for the specific competing doctor? Isn't Google the one deciding where the ads are most valuable?

If they don’t know, showing up and telling them will let them know.

If you excuse the effects that people’s actions have because they didn’t realize they were causing them, you guarantee that those effects will never stop.

Re: The Amazon tax

#658
I agree with the conclusions of the article, and I am no fan of Amazon or search ads on any product.

However, I would like to play devil's advocate for a moment to brainstorm another issue.

Let's say I build a product that is better than others in the market. We all agree that competition is good becuase it leads to better products and lower prices.

However, the algorithm favors entrenched players. A product that has been bought many times and has positive reviews will be the first in the search results and people usually buy that. Which means I have no way to compete other than paying my way at the top of the list.

I'm not stating this as the ultimate solution or even a good one. But I think it's worth to ask the question.

Re: The Amazon tax

#659

Imagine there's a best-selling toaster. Amazon can recommend it and many people will be happy buying it. Then, one day a new toaster comes out, and it might be even better than the old best-seller. How would it get sufficient traction to be recommended by the algorithm? To send a strong enough signal, it would probably need a level of sales that could only be achieved with some level of advertising. Separately, I'd n…

Shops used to curate their catalogs by in-house testing products from various suppliers. If a supplier comes up with a better toaster, they can send samples to the most relevant shops and convince them to stock it.
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